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Related: About this forum(A PREDICTION): If Donald Trump is the nominee, he will get no more than 35 percent of the vote.
I still think that 30% is right, but I am going to 35 to include all Republican voters,
Donald Trump is the single most evil candidate the Republicans will have ever nominated. He will NOT win, he is 'EVIL'... and everyone knows it. In my opinion it is that simple.
marble falls
(61,858 posts)Wednesdays
(20,198 posts)The MAGAts all hate him, and they rule the party now.
marble falls
(61,858 posts)... right now. The fact that Democrats have prevented MT Greene from challenging Johnson and replacing him shows MAGA is dying on the vine.
RandySF
(70,156 posts)ancianita
(38,102 posts)battlegrounds won't show up? Seriously?
Tree Lady
(12,166 posts)are turning more conservative partly because they don't have girlfriends and are getting caught up in right thinking online because of not having sex. I wonder if there is any truth to that.
One of my grandsons 18 is leaning republican and the other 27 is already that way. Both are into some weird financial banking beliefs they read online.
Trying to talk to them its like I am 100 and not in their world view. Both are introverts and no girls in their life.
RandySF
(70,156 posts)They seem lost. Period.
Tree Lady
(12,166 posts)but I can't seem to reach him. He's pretty depressed too feels like no way he will be able to afford being on his own. Stays with my ex his grandfather. Has a hard time staying at a job.
I think kids are expecting a lot from employment now.
brush
(57,086 posts)due to Biden/Dem policies/initiative/infrastructure jobs. What's up with your grandsons?
Too much cocooning on social media? Young people often meet the opposite sex at school or work. Don't they do either?
For centuries, decades our society has been geared to favor white men over women, POCs, LGBTQ+ folks etc., I don't get it. White males have advantages in the job market, which has traditionally led to advantages with women, or same sex, if so desired.
Ontheboundry
(237 posts)His friends were over once and I overheard a discussion.on politics
They were almost all not just leaning right, some were straight up MAGA and all these kids are college kids but one, and he is goig air force first to avoid student debt.
So, I didn't want to argue but asked my son later and he answered quickly "everyone tells them that everything is their fault, so they are turning to the only place they can".
Sort of left me depressed. Even if not true, they feel it's true
Note, not all these boys are white , and as far as their sexuality I 'think' they were all straight or want to be
no_hypocrisy
(48,555 posts)To a significant demographic, Trump is more interesting to watch and listen to than Joe Biden. They want Trump back so there's something "good" to watch on television.
Wish I were wrong.
Silent Type
(6,145 posts)Joinfortmill
(16,256 posts)I also think hell lose, though some of the polls make me a bit nervous.
LonePirate
(13,844 posts)Dems, as improbable as it sounds, are somehow losing some Black and Hispanic voters to him. Young voters are exceptionally disillusioned due to student loans, Israel-Gaza, housing. Plus there is the specter of inflation every time someone goes to grocery shopping. People are not eager to vote Dem this year and the final results are going to be much closer than in 2020. We could even lose the EC again as much of a nightmare as that will be.
ancianita
(38,102 posts)The_REAL_Ecumenist
(788 posts)trust me, of the literally HUNDREDS of people of color I know, ONLY one, (the person I laughingly refer to as my brother) voted for republy-uglies. The idiot says it's because EVERY ELSE he works with , (he works as a "financial trader" does. Did I tell you he's an idiot?
doc03
(36,518 posts)vote, really?
HUAJIAO
(2,543 posts)ancianita
(38,102 posts)victory.
HUAJIAO
(2,543 posts)He's expressing his opinion/gut feeling. So am I.
I get my info by reading just about everything pertinent on DU as well as a number of other sources- albeit mostly liberal sources
I put it all together and form an opinion.
ancianita
(38,102 posts)It's only fair that if you or others here disagree with him, you'd at least give one link to back up that tsf will win.
No one on DU has linked anything but corporate media polls around 6-8 months out. We're now 7 months out. I don't see how anyone can argue with him, given all the special election, public referenda and state trifecta wins we've had since 2018.
rubbersole
(8,337 posts)...all elections since 2018 have favored Dems or Dem causes. Polls have been consistently wrong for 5 years. They're virtually meaningless. Kansas on abortion access. Kansas. The hand wringing is unnecessary. But still get everyone you can to vote. Democracy will survive.
ancianita
(38,102 posts)I don't think you're too far off at all!
Polybius
(17,312 posts)W T F
(1,162 posts)ancianita
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Polybius
(17,312 posts)That would do it, although I don't think (at this point) Trump will win. But he has a path.
mopinko
(71,597 posts)the whole govt there now is dem majority, and the mi gqp is in shambles.
hes not taking wi or pa either. 22 was a blue wave there. thats not gonna recede.
Polybius
(17,312 posts)I doubt he wins PA, but MI is another story. Democrats who are Muslim may stay home.
cstanleytech
(26,915 posts)CloudWatcher
(1,922 posts)I worry more about Coup Attempt Take 2. Unless the vote is absolutely crushing and obvious they'll assume they've been cheated -- again. Trump and Fox News have done more damage to our country than Putin could possibly have imagined.
ancianita
(38,102 posts)It's good to worry. But they've always felt cheated. They don't care about governing, just their theocratic/authoritarian power.
Have some faith in Biden. If they lose, they won't obstruct the peaceful transfer of power this time.
This time there won't be a 2.0 except through legislative shenanigans and the courts.
No one's going to let them get close to Congress this time.
mopinko
(71,597 posts)theres no fucking way he gets joe out of there unless he actually wins. which he sure as hell wont.
drray23
(7,897 posts)This time president Biden is at the white house. He won't let it happen like Trump did. The Capitol will be secured and if there is an hint of anything it will be promptly shutdown.
SunSeeker
(53,486 posts)Pototan
(1,883 posts)God's not doing too much listening.
I remember a religious friend once said to me, "The Lord answers every prayer. Unfortunately, more often than not, the answer is 'NO'"
SunSeeker
(53,486 posts)Polybius
(17,312 posts)He'll get at least 46%. I am bookmarking this. When I respond back in November, please respond to my "That one didn't age quite so well" comment.
Ontheboundry
(237 posts)46 seems the low end tbh rn
Doodley
(10,158 posts)mopinko
(71,597 posts)states w abortion referenda will bring out the faithful, but in every state so far, theyve lost roughly 60-40.
but the full ticket? i agree, 30-35 is the best they will do.
Polybius
(17,312 posts)1) There's no way that Biden can win by 20 when even LBJ '64 and Reagan '84 didn't do it.
2) No way 3rd Party's do well enough to reduce anyone to the mid-30's.
lark
(24,041 posts)He will not accept the loss easily, we all know that for sure. He will fight it hard and he could win if SCOTUS illegally backs him and we know this is extremely possible. What would happen then? Yes, I am a worrier and last week's horrible SCOTUS hearing just reinforced the idea that fascism is being promoted hard by the right wing and will do anything to gain total ascendancy.
LetMyPeopleVote
(153,851 posts)Stuart G
(38,726 posts)Note the date on this prediction: April 28..........Today is June 1st