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Any opinion on Express vote voting machines (Original Post) Ellipsis Feb 2016 OP
It's touchscreen. Wilms Feb 2016 #1
Yeah I know, I used one today... two part system, one prints the other tabulates Ellipsis Feb 2016 #2
Are there ADEQUATE audits? Wilms Feb 2016 #3
Don't know... I'll find out it is a progressive lttle town though. Ellipsis Feb 2016 #4
Generally it is a state issue. Wilms Feb 2016 #5
I don't trust the vote counters. SaveTheMackerel Feb 2016 #6

Ellipsis

(9,175 posts)
2. Yeah I know, I used one today... two part system, one prints the other tabulates
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 05:46 PM
Feb 2016

I like the fact the it prints out the ballot as it were for you to check your results. I'd guess the substrate consumable is proprietary.


Its the tabulator... that strikes me as the funky vulnerable part at least you can hand count the results on the flavor I voted it on.

The ladies were touting it at the precinct like it was their new convertible.



 

Wilms

(26,795 posts)
3. Are there ADEQUATE audits?
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 06:31 PM
Feb 2016

If there's a good audit, not just any audit, you can achieve pretty high confidence.

But most of the "audits" I've read about do not do that well, except where there is a wide margin.

Ellipsis

(9,175 posts)
4. Don't know... I'll find out it is a progressive lttle town though.
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 06:36 PM
Feb 2016

Ill find out and if not see what I can do.

 

Wilms

(26,795 posts)
5. Generally it is a state issue.
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 06:42 PM
Feb 2016

Localities can beyond state law, of course. In Columbia County, NY (bless their hearts) the ENTIRE election is hand-counted. In the process, they satisfy the flimsy state law.

 

SaveTheMackerel

(37 posts)
6. I don't trust the vote counters.
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 07:59 PM
Feb 2016

They expect us to believe that handing off our ballots to a private company will make things more accurate? That just means they get to pick who wins. I'm sure no one will bribe that company, and that the owner is not political (sarcasm).

The only correct way to do it is to let each candidate count the votes in series with their own scanners. That or have hand counters count each stack by 3 different people who don't know each other, to see if they get the same numbers.

Shall we put this to a vote? If it fails to pass, we know why. What can we do about that? Demand to count them before they leave the precinct so they can't swap them out?

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