No, I don't really trust electronic machines, would prefer paper ballots, hand counted, at least twice by different people.

Ever since Dubya got " elected" The first time, I have been especially suspicious, since some of his buddies actually made the voting machines that were used.

All of us who don't really know if our votes ever get counted actually do care.

I can't start an original posting because either the DU folks or I do not have the correct "original" email that I used when I was "stevepol" instead of as now "stevepal." I had to register all over again in order to be able to join DU again.

So anybody who reads the following from Beth Clarkson's web site is welcome to use this information to come up with a new posting. Beth organized and carried out a rather thorough exit poll at several locations in Wichita and SE Kansas for the presidential election and the other races being contested at the same time. Here's the info:

http://showmethevotes.org/

Basically what she says is that "the exit poll results from all five polling locations in Southeast Kansas show strong evidence of election fraud in both the patterns and size of the errors."

Here are a few other quotes from her web site:

"Voters were asked how they voted – by machine, a scanned paper ballot, or an uncounted provisional ballot. Results from the polling location give us the breakdown by machine votes and scanned ballots, which can be directly compared. The electronic voting machines used in all three Kansas counties were ES&S Ivotronic. The paper ballot scanning equipment varied, but was all from the same manufacturer: ES&S.

"The results from these exit polls tell a consistent, albeit unpleasant, story: Our electronic voting machines should not be trusted. Scanned paper ballots have been impacted as well, but due to some technical issues regarding the data, results on that type of counting machinery are less compelling. Scanned paper ballot results often continued the pattern of the voting machine results, which does add to the weight of evidence against the accuracy of the official results.

"I have posted the data from our exit poll and the corresponding official vote counts at Exit Poll Data

"These exit poll results CLEARLY POINT TO MANIPULATION OF THE MACHINE COUNTS OF OUR VOTES (my caps). These are not random errors. There is no other reasonable explanation for large and consistent errors in favor (or against) particular candidates in this situation."

Somebody may have already posted this information but if not I hope somebody will take the trouble to do so.

Thanks you,

Stevepal (aka stevepol)

welcome to the U.S. of A.

about elections in this country. Even with paper, it's like Stalin said- what matters is who counts the votes.

then you should post some links

Paper ballots got us GWB. Hanging chads in FL, remember?

when actually counted it would have gone to Al Gore