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kacekwl

(7,415 posts)
Thu Oct 10, 2024, 09:25 AM Oct 10

I think everyone needs to vote but

I'm kind of tired of feeling like my vote doesn't really count because of the stupidity of the electoral college. In a country with 50 states + the only ones that matter are so called swing states. When are we going to make everyone's vote count. Democrats consistently win the popular vote and lose. How is that fair? How is that even a thing anymore ? Is there any chance this will change anytime soon?

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I think everyone needs to vote but (Original Post) kacekwl Oct 10 OP
Preaching to the choir. Ferrets are Cool Oct 10 #1
Not until we change the Constitution Jerry2144 Oct 10 #2
If the number of seats in the House expanded Jerry2144 Oct 10 #6
Yep. "It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing". Mister Ed Oct 10 #3
Popular vote compact Voltaire2 Oct 10 #4
Good information. kacekwl Oct 10 #5
Fixing the House size can help too Jerry2144 Oct 10 #7
Yeah, the House ought to go back to something much closer to 30,000 people per representative. Voltaire2 Oct 10 #8

Jerry2144

(2,568 posts)
2. Not until we change the Constitution
Thu Oct 10, 2024, 09:35 AM
Oct 10

It was a compromise to get the slave states to agree. Just like the second amendment and the make up of the Senate.

It is time to redo the constitution. But we can’t do it until we cure the cancer of the Confederacy that has infected the Republiklan Party

Jerry2144

(2,568 posts)
6. If the number of seats in the House expanded
Thu Oct 10, 2024, 12:16 PM
Oct 10

To be more proportional to the population, it could help somewhat. The smaller states each get one House seat. Larger ones get multiples of that based upon population. This fix wouldn’t take a constitutional change, just updating a law from long ago that set the House size at 438

Mister Ed

(6,326 posts)
3. Yep. "It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing".
Thu Oct 10, 2024, 10:00 AM
Oct 10

If your state's not a swing state, then it will be largely ignored by presidential campaigns. (Which, at least, will spare you the barrage of awful TV ads.)

My faint hope is that technology will enable a broad redistribution of the population, making the Electoral College more reflective of the popular vote. That, in turn, would make it possible to do away with the Electoral College via constitutional amendment.

Jerry2144

(2,568 posts)
7. Fixing the House size can help too
Thu Oct 10, 2024, 12:20 PM
Oct 10

A small state still only gets 1 House seat. But a state with 70 times that population gets 70 seats. This lightens the imbalance but doesn’t fix it since the Senate is still 2 seats per state. We can expand the House since that’s only set by a law. Anything else involves a constitutional change or rewrite which is dangerous if too many Christofascist Republiklans get input

Voltaire2

(14,626 posts)
8. Yeah, the House ought to go back to something much closer to 30,000 people per representative.
Thu Oct 10, 2024, 01:42 PM
Oct 10

And the senate is just unfixable as you note, without a serious constitutional change, which is not possible these days.

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