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hobbit709

(41,694 posts) Thu May 26, 2016, 11:43 AM May 2016

Another Windows 10 "upgrade" aggravation.

Friend brought his kid's computer in because on boot up it kept saying "No OS found"
OK, get out my Windows 7 install disk and see if I can repair it. Only OS it finds is 10. Fixed it to the point that 10 starts to boot and halts due to file error. Starts repair process and goes into a loop.
Get out my Linux disk to see if I can read the drive and save data. Shows C: drive but not D: partition. Try to access C: drive and get unmountable error.
Get out a spare drive and do a quick and dirty 7 install, shut it down, hook up the other drive. Shows C: partition and lets me copy data files to external. When click on D: message is "This drive is not formatted, would you like to format it now?"
Evidently it upgraded to 10 back in Dec and blanked out the D: partition at the time. WTF? Needless to say everything on it is now gone.
Wiped drive completely and reinstalled 7, currently updating and making sure KB3035583 does not get there.

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Another Windows 10 "upgrade" aggravation. (Original Post) hobbit709 May 2016 OP

Sounds like a bad drive Egnever May 2016 #1

My drive test utilities say it works fine. hobbit709 May 2016 #2

Then why couldn't you access it with a Linux boot disk Egnever May 2016 #4

Message was that Windows wouldn't release it. hobbit709 May 2016 #5

That doesn't sound right Egnever May 2016 #6

When I put in another drive and did a quick and dirty 7 install it read that drive just fine. hobbit709 May 2016 #7

Two friends of mine Spirochete May 2016 #3

Those are the horror stores that worry me about upgrading my computer to Windows 10 davidpdx May 2016 #13

I'm using 10 on a laptop and I'm actually liking it better than... Historic NY May 2016 #8

Win 10 is much better than 8.X IMO Earth Bound Misfit May 2016 #10

Just a heads-up re:KB3035583 (GWX) Earth Bound Misfit May 2016 #9

Yep. Found another little trick they pulled a couple of weeks ago. hobbit709 May 2016 #11

Confirmed. That's why I uninstalled MSE on my 3 machs and switched back to Avast Free Earth Bound Misfit May 2016 #12

Egnever

(21,506 posts)

1. Sounds like a bad drive

Reply to hobbit709 (Original post)

Thu May 26, 2016, 11:52 AM

May 2016

hobbit709

(41,694 posts)

2. My drive test utilities say it works fine.

Reply to Egnever (Reply #1)

Thu May 26, 2016, 12:07 PM

May 2016

Egnever

(21,506 posts)

4. Then why couldn't you access it with a Linux boot disk

Reply to hobbit709 (Reply #2)

Thu May 26, 2016, 12:12 PM

May 2016

That takes ten out of the picture

hobbit709

(41,694 posts)

5. Message was that Windows wouldn't release it.

Reply to Egnever (Reply #4)

Thu May 26, 2016, 12:23 PM

May 2016

Egnever

(21,506 posts)

6. That doesn't sound right

Reply to hobbit709 (Reply #5)

Thu May 26, 2016, 12:25 PM

May 2016

Windows should not have any control over that drive when booting off the Linux disk. Did you check and make sure secure boot was off in the bios?

hobbit709

(41,694 posts)

7. When I put in another drive and did a quick and dirty 7 install it read that drive just fine.

Reply to Egnever (Reply #6)

Thu May 26, 2016, 12:41 PM

May 2016

That's how I was able to save the data to an external drive.
Crystal dsik info, spin-rite and Seagate drive test passed the drive just fine.

now that I got 7 back on it, both C and D are there without a problem.

Spirochete

(5,264 posts)

3. Two friends of mine

Reply to hobbit709 (Original post)

Thu May 26, 2016, 12:10 PM

May 2016

have each lost everything on their laptops after upgrading from Windows 7 to 10. They both had to start from scratch. I had no problem with it myself, but I'm using a desktop, not a laptop. Something about upgrading a laptop is pretty iffy, it would seem.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)

13. Those are the horror stores that worry me about upgrading my computer to Windows 10

Reply to Spirochete (Reply #3)

Sat May 28, 2016, 08:45 PM

May 2016

My computer means a lot to me. Thankfully I have external drives to back up everything before I switch over. I've been putting it off switching for a long time.

Historic NY

(37,969 posts)

8. I'm using 10 on a laptop and I'm actually liking it better than...

Reply to hobbit709 (Original post)

Fri May 27, 2016, 01:05 AM

May 2016

8.1 I found that once I took over management it worked fine....10 likes to think what you plan on doing. It took 2 trys to get it to load up from Wins 7, it too found some error and fixed it. I never lost any files.

Earth Bound Misfit

(3,560 posts)

10. Win 10 is much better than 8.X IMO

Reply to Historic NY (Reply #8)

Fri May 27, 2016, 02:05 AM

May 2016

but it's not my rock-solid stable-reliable Windows 7, not by a long shot IMHO. 10 is still buggy - an unofficial Public BETA - and I'll wait till the next big update, "Redstone" which was supposed to RTM this summer but has been delayed till spring '17 last I heard.

Earth Bound Misfit

(3,560 posts)

9. Just a heads-up re:KB3035583 (GWX)

Reply to hobbit709 (Original post)

Fri May 27, 2016, 01:49 AM

May 2016

...currently updating and making sure KB3035583 does not get there.

M$ revised this KB for the umpteenth time May 25th, now re-classified as "recommended"
If you have clients you've previously advised to hide & stopped this Malware like KB from installing, you/they'll have to hide it again. July 29th (end of M$ free upgrade program) can't come soon enough IMO.

hobbit709

(41,694 posts)

11. Yep. Found another little trick they pulled a couple of weeks ago.

Reply to Earth Bound Misfit (Reply #9)

Fri May 27, 2016, 04:04 AM

May 2016

A MSE update turned Windows Update back to full Automatic. Up pops that Win 10 update screen within 30 seconds of the MSE update finishing.

Earth Bound Misfit

(3,560 posts)

12. Confirmed. That's why I uninstalled MSE on my 3 machs and switched back to Avast Free

Reply to hobbit709 (Reply #11)

Fri May 27, 2016, 08:46 AM

May 2016

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MSE defs update thru Windoze Update and you're right when the version changes it fucks w your settings

Avast, Web & File shields only no useless Bells & Whistles, Defs & Prog update set to "Manual", no "streaming" updates. Aside from an odd false positive or three from the web shield it never makes a peep other than the occasional nag popup to upgrade to the $$$ version.

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