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Cartoonist

(7,521 posts)
Sun Jul 17, 2016, 02:45 PM Jul 2016

lost files

I have an old Mac running on OS9. I started transferring files to my new PC via thumb drives. Things were going smoothly with many files loaded onto the thumb drive successfully. Then jpg's started disappearing. The folder would transfer, but the files inside weren't. To make things worse, the original files disappeared also. Any idea what happened?

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lost files (Original Post) Cartoonist Jul 2016 OP
Your files disappeared from the thumb drive or or old Mac? earthshine Jul 2016 #1
Pretty sure he was just using the ManiacJoe Jul 2016 #2
Yes Cartoonist Jul 2016 #5
Start looking for a free file recovery tool canetoad Jul 2016 #3
Hmmm Cartoonist Jul 2016 #4
That's what I would run it on. It sounds like the software did a move jtuck004 Jul 2016 #6
Possibly yes canetoad Jul 2016 #7
I'll try Cartoonist Jul 2016 #9
My guess is bad or counterfeit thumb drive BlueStateLib Jul 2016 #8
Cheap drive Cartoonist Jul 2016 #10
did you do a copy and paste or a cut and paste? hobbit709 Jul 2016 #11
I did a drag and drop Cartoonist Jul 2016 #12
That removes it from the original location. hobbit709 Jul 2016 #13
No it doesn't Cartoonist Jul 2016 #14
I always select what files I want. copy and paste to the new location, check to see hobbit709 Jul 2016 #15
I've got you beat Cartoonist Jul 2016 #16
What ?!? Not so ! eppur_se_muova Aug 2016 #18
file system incompibable sassszin Aug 2016 #17
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2017 #19
 

earthshine

(1,642 posts)
1. Your files disappeared from the thumb drive or or old Mac?
Sun Jul 17, 2016, 03:15 PM
Jul 2016

Thumb drives are not considered a reliable means of long-term storage. As a general statement, they have a high-failure rate.

Traditional hard drives and SSDs are much more reliable.

Cartoonist

(7,521 posts)
5. Yes
Sun Jul 17, 2016, 09:23 PM
Jul 2016

As I said, I was in the process of loading the folders from my Mac to the thumbdrive. The thumb drive was still connected to the Mac when I noticed that some disappeared. I still had plenty of capacity left on the drive.

canetoad

(18,102 posts)
3. Start looking for a free file recovery tool
Sun Jul 17, 2016, 06:37 PM
Jul 2016

Then run it on your USB drive. Roadkil Undelete is one that comes to mind. There are others here:
http://www.photo-freeware.net/

If the usb drive has failed (and I suspect it is more a file format problem than a failed drive) try Partition Find and Mount which MAY show you files on the drive to expedite recovery. http://findandmount.com/

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
6. That's what I would run it on. It sounds like the software did a move
Sun Jul 17, 2016, 10:56 PM
Jul 2016

command on the files instead of just a copy.

Did you use a commercial software to move them over?

canetoad

(18,102 posts)
7. Possibly yes
Sun Jul 17, 2016, 11:21 PM
Jul 2016

But they may have been copied to the usb drive and for whatever reason are not showing up, ie. an error in the file allocation table (FAT). I haven't used a Mac since the 90s but if you trawl the Mac enthusiast sites you may find a free recovery tool to try.

BlueStateLib

(937 posts)
8. My guess is bad or counterfeit thumb drive
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 05:22 AM
Jul 2016

Lots of them on eBay. What they do is modify the Flash Drive internal code so that a 8GB looks like a 64GB Drive. I bought more than a few 64GB off ebay that were bad, I was seeing anything over 10GB was rewriting and corrupting files. I found if you can fill 50% of the thumb drive with video files, pull it out and put it back in and play the video then you got a good thumb drive. Flash drive tester showed ????? for 80% of the address locations. By the way, the ebay seller sent me good replacements that works great.

Buy a name brand quality flash drive, I never had a problem with sandisk or pny

Cartoonist

(7,521 posts)
10. Cheap drive
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 12:20 PM
Jul 2016

I bought it at office depot a long time ago. I can understand that being the problem, but why would my original files disappear?

Cartoonist

(7,521 posts)
14. No it doesn't
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 01:13 PM
Jul 2016

I've altered my approach, though it adds time to the process. I first duplicate the file, then drag and drop the duplicate. After seeing that the file transferred properly to the thumb drive, I then delete the duplicate on the Mac.

hobbit709

(41,694 posts)
15. I always select what files I want. copy and paste to the new location, check to see
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 01:27 PM
Jul 2016

if the transfer was successful and then delete the originals if necessary. It takes more time as you said but it eliminates problems.
And I make more than one backup of anything I want to keep.
I've got files going back over 20 years saved in more than one medium. I still have data DVDs of my original mp3 files-they're backed up on flash drives, external hard drives and on 3 different computers
I learned my lesson when I lost 4 months worth of recording data.

eppur_se_muova

(37,357 posts)
18. What ?!? Not so !
Sun Aug 28, 2016, 10:02 AM
Aug 2016

Even on Windows, dragging files from one partition to another copies the files. Files are moved, not copied, when dragging from one folder/directory to another on the same partition.

sassszin

(2 posts)
17. file system incompibable
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 02:05 AM
Aug 2016

Last edited Fri Aug 12, 2016, 02:05 AM - Edit history (1)

Mac uses different file system as PC. You should find thumb drive supports FAT 32, such as SanDisk. Instead, you can backup files to mac with this file transfer. It is more convenient than other ways.

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