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SecularMotion

(7,981 posts)
Sat Jul 29, 2017, 04:12 PM Jul 2017

Windows 10 may cut off devices with older CPUs

Speaking to PC World, Microsoft said that despite pledging Windows 10 feature updates until October 13th 2020, this will now depend on users running relatively modern hardware. In short: if a manufacturer stops supporting your hardware at any point then Microsoft may not longer upgrade your version of Windows 10.

Windows 10 will place new hardware requirements on users to upgrade their systems

“Recognizing that a combination of hardware, driver and firmware support is required to have a good Windows 10 experience, we updated our support lifecycle policy to align with the hardware support period for a given device,” Microsoft said in a statement.

“If a hardware partner stops supporting a given device or one of its key components and stops providing driver updates, firmware updates, or fixes, it may mean that device will not be able to properly run a future Windows 10 feature update.”

And the result of a device or component no longer being supported is severe. When updating users will simply receive the message: “Windows 10 is no longer supported on this PC”.


And to make matters worse, at present Windows 10 will not tell users which piece of hardware is responsible for the cancellation. A user will have to check every part of their PC, from the processor and RAM to the hard drive, graphics and network card.

http://www.makersofandroid.com/windows-10-creators-update-bad-surprise/

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Windows 10 may cut off devices with older CPUs (Original Post) SecularMotion Jul 2017 OP
Not seeing how that is a bad thing. Egnever Jul 2017 #1
The plan now takes shape discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2017 #2
Glad I kept my Windows 7 exboyfil Jul 2017 #3
I am also glad that I never went to Windows 10 katmondoo Jul 2017 #4
Glad I passed on the upgrade... 2naSalit Jul 2017 #5
Windows 10 update ate my Wi-Fi device drivers last week. DURHAM D Jul 2017 #6
That happened to me also. I used an internet USB adaptor and downloaded the drivers... Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #7
Creators update killed my NIC and WiFi HAB911 Aug 2017 #9
If computers are a thousand times more powerful... hunter Jul 2017 #8
 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
1. Not seeing how that is a bad thing.
Sat Jul 29, 2017, 04:20 PM
Jul 2017

This article seems to think it is the end of the world but by the time most machines reach that point they will be long gone.

Average computer life is 4 years or less no way you are going to be on hard ware old enough to be phased out by then my bet is it would be closer to 8-10 year old hardware this will affect and if you junk is that old you don't care about updates anyway.

This will likely affect under 1% of Windows users.

Part of the reason many people think windows sucks is because they don't make the hardware requirements tough enough and manufacturers put out machines that can't run windows forget about installing more software on top.

Apple.does not have this problem their machines always have enough hardware to ensure the OS has enough horse power to run smoothly. It is a big reason why so many like apple . Makes windows look bad but they have no one to blame but themselves for allowing people to put out machines with hardware below minimum specs or setting their minimums way too low.

discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,569 posts)
2. The plan now takes shape
Sat Jul 29, 2017, 04:29 PM
Jul 2017

Offer the Win10 download free for a time; get folks comfortable with it working and being stable.
Get those who wanted to wait to verify that it was stable and have them pay for Win10.
Cut support where it may require extensive testing on older hardware variations.
>>> M$ gets a bit of a windfall as folks abandon older PCs and buy new simply because it's easier than solving the real problem.

2naSalit

(92,480 posts)
5. Glad I passed on the upgrade...
Sat Jul 29, 2017, 05:16 PM
Jul 2017

I have a friend who is experiencing this very problem... it makes my Gmail mess up when I try to relpy to their email, so I just compose a new message. But the huge updates that my computer keeps trying to install fail and the fail code isn't recognized, guess I'll try to find a way to eliminate those updates.

Thanks for the news!

DURHAM D

(32,835 posts)
6. Windows 10 update ate my Wi-Fi device drivers last week.
Sat Jul 29, 2017, 05:27 PM
Jul 2017

The device was less than a year old. Took me a while to get it back up and working.

The person who helped me said that Windows updates were eating all sorts of devices.

He works at Office Depot so it is boosting their sales.



Demsrule86

(70,995 posts)
7. That happened to me also. I used an internet USB adaptor and downloaded the drivers...
Sat Jul 29, 2017, 06:19 PM
Jul 2017

It was a pain. I also had ethernet over electric so I could have done it that way. I have fixed more computers who have the blue screen or black screen of death after those damn updates. I truly hate Microsoft. If they come after my relatively new laptops or desktops, I will run Linux.

HAB911

(9,353 posts)
9. Creators update killed my NIC and WiFi
Wed Aug 2, 2017, 01:40 PM
Aug 2017

took me 2 days hard work reading and trying different solutions, finally uninstalled both and let the update run, which reinstalled both to Windows satisfaction........finally working

hunter

(38,870 posts)
8. If computers are a thousand times more powerful...
Mon Jul 31, 2017, 12:20 PM
Jul 2017

... why can't they be a thousand times better?

Why is the operating system (in this case, Windows) allowed to use up so many resources?

I look at Windows and it's just layers and layers upon layers of abstraction, virtual machines running on virtual machines all the way down through the x86 CPUs, which are virtual machines themselves.

Increased power has been put to use in video handling, for games, video editing, etc., but that power is in the proprietary GPU, access to which is buried under several layers of abstraction within the operating system.

Linux is suffering similar development, the introduction of the much maligned (and rightly so)
systemd being a current example of that.

But maybe I'm just yelling "get off my lawn." I'm old enough to remember being irritated by the size of Turbo-Pascal's runtime (a huge 7 kilobytes!) compiled into every Turbo Pascal program. That made a difference when 300 bits-per-second modems were still common, and PCs might have memories of 256 Kilobytes. At 300 bits per second a minimal Turbo Pascal executable took about four minutes to download.

Still, one thing I like about Linux is that I can usually get it running on machines I get for free. Often these are machines that have be rendered unusable by Windows itself and Windows software.





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