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Susan Calvin

(2,074 posts)
Tue Sep 15, 2020, 04:35 PM Sep 2020

Technology question regarding Android app permissions.

I'm getting a scale, and I wouldn't mind the kind that sends data to your phone via Bluetooth. Unfortunately, all the ones I found so far require that you enable location on your phone, or log into Google on your phone, or both. I see no reason you should have to do this, so I am not getting that kind of scale unless I can find one that doesn't require unnecessary permissions. Does anybody happen to know of a Bluetooth scale with an app that does not require unnecessary permissions?

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Technology question regarding Android app permissions. (Original Post) Susan Calvin Sep 2020 OP
I have a Wyze scale, it doesn't need my location and it's $20 RainCaster Sep 2020 #1
Thank you. Susan Calvin Sep 2020 #3
Unfortunately it appears to require location now. Susan Calvin Sep 2020 #5
I have android 10 and I can disable those settings... RainCaster Sep 2020 #6
Oh, I can disable it for the scales app. Susan Calvin Sep 2020 #7
I don't have the problem with my phone RainCaster Sep 2020 #8
Interesting Susan Calvin Sep 2020 #9
Google's android team had this vision... RainCaster Sep 2020 #10
Android geek here too. Susan Calvin Sep 2020 #11
Don't get the smart scale if... discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2020 #2
. Susan Calvin Sep 2020 #4

Susan Calvin

(2,074 posts)
5. Unfortunately it appears to require location now.
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 07:15 AM
Sep 2020

They all do. It seems to be something that Google is enforcing, unless you use an alternate Bluetooth method called Companion device pairing, which none of the scale makers seem to be aware of.

RainCaster

(11,504 posts)
6. I have android 10 and I can disable those settings...
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 09:30 AM
Sep 2020

On a per app basis. The scale knows where I am when I step on it.

RainCaster

(11,504 posts)
8. I don't have the problem with my phone
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 03:47 PM
Sep 2020

I just tested this.
1. disabled Location perms for Wyze app
2. restarted phone
3. started Wyze app, and selected scale
4. connected and downloaded latest scale readings just like always. Connection was sub-second, no discernible lag.

Susan Calvin

(2,074 posts)
9. Interesting
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 05:08 PM
Sep 2020

I'll give that a try with the scale I've currently got that I was going to send back until I found out they all work that way.

They don't have to do it that way I found out. It's apparently perfectly easy to allow Bluetooth connections without requiring that location be turned on.

https://developer.android.com/guide/topics/connectivity/companion-device-pairing

RainCaster

(11,504 posts)
10. Google's android team had this vision...
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 05:17 PM
Sep 2020

It was once thought that bluetooth was very power hungry. The offered solution was to only turn it on if in the physical presence of a known device. That doesn't work very well at all. Too often you need to connect to a device that may not be at a constant physical location- like your ear pods, speaker, laptop or car. So now the idea of turning down (or off) BT by location no longer makes any sense.

Android geek words, sorry.

Bottom line- if you have one and you can make it work, might as well keep it. As cheap as they are, the shipping becomes significant.

Susan Calvin

(2,074 posts)
11. Android geek here too.
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 09:48 PM
Sep 2020

Or at least computer science and privacy geek. I'm going to try your work around, and if that fails just use it as a regular scale. What are you going to do when computers become so much like people? Object-oriented programming, I'm telling ya.

discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,565 posts)
2. Don't get the smart scale if...
Tue Sep 15, 2020, 04:42 PM
Sep 2020

...you have the web enabled fridge. Dave Barry said that the scale might tell the fridge to lock you out.

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