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Ron Obvious

(6,261 posts)
Sat Oct 10, 2020, 07:23 PM Oct 2020

Newby smartphone question: Scanning QR codes

I just went into a local restaurant where they wanted me to scan one of those square-pixeled "bar" codes (QR code I think) to bring up their menu on my smartphone.

I don't have a smartphone so I asked for a paper menu instead. They eventually produced one, but seemed a bit shirty about it.

Was it just because I put them through the hassle of having to find a paper menu, or is there some advantage to the restaurant for making me do this? Does it give away personal information and put me on their mailing list or something? Do they get kickbacks when customers scan the code? Is it a URL that my browser goes to?

Just curious, as I seemed to be the only one not able (or wanting) to bring up the menu this way. I suspect this will probably become more common and it will be yet another way I'll get left behind without a smartphone. Not that it'll make me get one, mind.

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Newby smartphone question: Scanning QR codes (Original Post) Ron Obvious Oct 2020 OP
I suppose they save a small amount of money by not printing... brush Oct 2020 #1
I may eventually have to get one, but I hope to put off that evil day as long as possible. Ron Obvious Oct 2020 #5
You are going to be forced to upgrade soon csziggy Oct 2020 #8
I wonder about embedded systems Ron Obvious Oct 2020 #9
Yes, those may be a problem csziggy Oct 2020 #11
I put off getting a 4G phone as long as possible. hunter Oct 2020 #12
This requires less social contact than a paper menu RainCaster Oct 2020 #2
Makes sense Ron Obvious Oct 2020 #6
Not having to physically handle menus is better re:Covid I would think... Princess Turandot Oct 2020 #3
Their paper menus were disposable anyway. Ron Obvious Oct 2020 #7
Just use camera app Sienna86 Oct 2020 #4
C-19 prevention 3Hotdogs Oct 2020 #10

brush

(57,241 posts)
1. I suppose they save a small amount of money by not printing...
Sat Oct 10, 2020, 07:39 PM
Oct 2020

menus, but IMO it's some places try to be on the cutting edge of tech but they come off being too smart by half.

Everyone with a smart phone hasn't bothered to download the qr code app, or familiarize themselves with it if it's include on their phone.

You should get a smart phone though. Get an android one like I have. I only paid $120 as I wasn't paying a grand for an Apple phone, even though I'm a long-time Mac computer person.

I don't even have $200.00 fee package. I just pay a $45.00 monthly fee.

 

Ron Obvious

(6,261 posts)
5. I may eventually have to get one, but I hope to put off that evil day as long as possible.
Sat Oct 10, 2020, 08:32 PM
Oct 2020

I have a 2G/3G phone with actual keyboard allowing me to make and receive calls, text and play podcasts over bluetooth.

That's all I want. I distrust the security and the whole surveillance state aspect of the damn things, don't want to install "apps" for everything, and don't want to bank on my phone or use a damn touch screen in the first place.

csziggy

(34,189 posts)
8. You are going to be forced to upgrade soon
Sat Oct 10, 2020, 10:04 PM
Oct 2020

3G is being phased out so your phone will no longer work.

What you need to know about the 3G shutdown and VoLTE

Richard Howard • March 5, 2020

You’ve almost certainly heard of the new 5G mobile technology and its promise of lightning-fast mobile data. While that will certainly be the case in the future, right now you can expect modest improvements while the technology matures. However, that’s a story for another time. What we’ll be talking about today is how this move to 5G will affect older 2G and 3G technology. The nationwide mobile providers will be shutting down their 2G and 3G networks. And although you likely haven’t heard a peep about it, the 2G/3G shutdown process has already begun. If you’re using a phone that utilizes older technology, you could begin to have a very poor mobile experience if you don’t act soon!

What is the 2G/3G shutdown

We won’t do a deep dive into how cellular networks operate because, to be honest, it’d probably bore you to tears. For our purposes, all we need to know is that there are a limited number of frequencies available for cell phones and other devices that use mobile data to operate on. That means that existing 2G and 3G infrastructure is taking up valuable frequency bands that could be used for modern LTE service, which is both more in demand and more cost-effective. This in itself would have resulted in an eventual 3G network shutdown. With the advent of 5G, however, the need for additional frequency bands has greatly increased and as a result, networks around the world have begun the 2G and 3G “sunset” process (many have already shut down their 2G infrastructure).
When will 3G be shut down?

Exact 3G shutdown dates vary between the “Big Four” U.S. wireless service providers. And while their final shutdown dates range between the end of this year and 2022, they’ve already started decommissioning their towers and other infrastructure. If you’re currently experiencing issues like missed calls, and texts, slow connections or malfunctioning voicemail, you could be using a susceptible device in an affected area. As for 2G, that technology has gone the way of the dodo on all networks except T-Mobile, which will be shutting it off at the end of 2020. That’s why we’ll mostly focus on 3G.

More: https://ting.com/blog/3g-shutdown-and-volte-2/
 

Ron Obvious

(6,261 posts)
9. I wonder about embedded systems
Sat Oct 10, 2020, 10:15 PM
Oct 2020

My security system uses cellular technology, and it's well over a decade old.

I'll deal with it when the day comes, I suppose.

csziggy

(34,189 posts)
11. Yes, those may be a problem
Sat Oct 10, 2020, 11:14 PM
Oct 2020

Or may be the reason the upgrades are slowing down, if a lot of embedded systems rely on the older technology, companies may have forced the delay.

I know I loved my original Nokia cell phone (that I nicknamed The Brick) but when the original cell systems (1G?) were outmoded, Tracphone sent me a new one for free. Externally it was identical, but it lasted a few years until they sent me another free phone for the same reason, with the same look.

Eventually I gave in and bought a refurbished semi-smart phone. It couldn't do much but it got me started on the dreaded upward path. Last fall I bought a Samsung 10e and it has been a huge jump. One reason for resisting a smart phone was that our farm is mostly over a ridge that blocks cell signals. Add to that we have a ICF (insulated concrete form) house with rebar and concrete walls with a metal roof. No cell signal at all but the newer phone can use WiFi to send a cell signal (or something like that, I don't know the details of the technology).

hunter

(38,838 posts)
12. I put off getting a 4G phone as long as possible.
Sun Oct 11, 2020, 12:20 PM
Oct 2020

My cell phone company eventually gave me a $50 voucher for a 4G phone and offered quite a few smart phones for that price, both new and "refurbished."

I chose a $15 4G flip phone and got a $35 gift card back.

Smart phones are big, fragile, and awkward. A couple of years ago I accidentally broke one of my wife's smart phones by dropping it on a concrete floor. When I drop my flip phones it's no big deal.

RainCaster

(11,504 posts)
2. This requires less social contact than a paper menu
Sat Oct 10, 2020, 07:39 PM
Oct 2020

Pretty simple, and all smart phones can deal with QR codes.

Princess Turandot

(4,823 posts)
3. Not having to physically handle menus is better re:Covid I would think...
Sat Oct 10, 2020, 07:42 PM
Oct 2020

that's the only thing that came to mind. (I don't use a cell phone, smart or otherwise.)

 

Ron Obvious

(6,261 posts)
7. Their paper menus were disposable anyway.
Sat Oct 10, 2020, 08:35 PM
Oct 2020

And I do have a cell phone, but draw the line at smartphones for all sorts of reasons.

Sienna86

(2,151 posts)
4. Just use camera app
Sat Oct 10, 2020, 07:58 PM
Oct 2020

It will bring up link to select. This probably enables the restaurant to make frequent changes to their menu.

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