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(17,320 posts)NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)So true! That, and ignorance, are the only things to explain how they vote against their own self interests time and time again!
K/R
IrishAyes
(6,151 posts)American poor don't (usually) don't realize they're victims of class warfare because they consider themselves temporarily embarrassed millionaires.
Stupidity and hubris. It would hurt too much to acknowledge the fix they're in and who's most to blame. Easier to hate those who would help them, and worship their oppressors because truth to tell - that's who they really wanna be.
think
(11,641 posts)Republicans and their shadowy corporate alliances skillfully use propaganda to color the perception of the American voters. And they've been doing it for a long long time.....
The Rendon Group's work in Kuwait continued after the war itself had ended. 'If any of you either participated in the liberation of Kuwait City ... or if you watched it on television, you would have seen hundreds of Kuwaitis waving small American flags,' John Rendon said in his speech to the NSC. 'Did you ever stop to wonder how the people of Kuwait City, after being held hostage for seven long and painful months, were able to get hand-held American flags? And for that matter, the flags of other coalition countries? Well, you now know the answer. That was one of my jobs.'"[2]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rendon_Group#Kuwait
Published on Friday, November 18, 2005 by Rolling Stone - by James Bamford
Meet John Rendon, Bush's general in the propaganda war
The road to war in Iraq led through many unlikely places. One of them was a chic hotel nestled among the strip bars and brothels that cater to foreigners in the town of Pattaya, on the Gulf of Thailand.
On December 17th, 2001, in a small room within the sound of the crashing tide, a CIA officer attached metal electrodes to the ring and index fingers of a man sitting pensively in a padded chair. The officer then stretched a black rubber tube, pleated like an accordion, around the man's chest and another across his abdomen. Finally, he slipped a thick cuff over the man's brachial artery, on the inside of his upper arm.
Strapped to the polygraph machine was Adnan Ihsan Saeed al-Haideri, a forty-three-year-old Iraqi who had fled his homeland in Kurdistan and was now determined to bring down Saddam Hussein. For hours, as thin mechanical styluses traced black lines on rolling graph paper, al-Haideri laid out an explosive tale. Answering yes and no to a series of questions, he insisted repeatedly that he was a civil engineer who had helped Saddam's men to secretly bury tons of biological, chemical and nuclear weapons. The illegal arms, according to al-Haideri, were buried in subterranean wells, hidden in private villas, even stashed beneath the Saddam Hussein Hospital, the largest medical facility in Baghdad....
It was damning stuff -- just the kind of evidence the Bush administration was looking for. If the charges were true, they would offer the White House a compelling reason to invade Iraq and depose Saddam. That's why the Pentagon had flown a CIA polygraph expert to Pattaya: to question al-Haideri and confirm, once and for all, that Saddam was secretly stockpiling weapons of mass destruction.
There was only one problem: It was all a lie. After a review of the sharp peaks and deep valleys on the polygraph chart, the intelligence officer concluded that al-Haideri had made up the entire story, apparently in the hopes of securing a visa.
~snip~
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/1118-10.htm
SunSeeker
(53,695 posts)Pretzel_Warrior
(8,361 posts)sheshe2
(87,578 posts)Iliyah
(25,111 posts)by major corporations and conservative groups. At least when us progressives protest its comes from alike individuals who usually paid for their own transportation and supplies or progressive groups pulling their resources together with, ahem, correctly spelled words and sentences that make sense.
Hopefully people here should know what the conniving gopers/libertarians are up to. Divide and conquer.
Thanks "babylonsister"!
Chico Man
(3,001 posts)I'd feel foolish if I were to share such a piece on Facebook.
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)We should block them from the polls.
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)Chico Man
(3,001 posts)That we don't want a certain demographic / group to vote..
I mean, it is mentioned several times..
I'd rather more people vote? Everyone should vote, right? Even "teabaggers"! Why should we ever suggest they don't have this right or we would somehow be better off if they were denied the right?
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)now you're just making up shit for the sole reason of hyperbolic martyrdom
Chico Man
(3,001 posts)"Because your votes are the reason the country is in the predicament it's in?"
Do us a favor and stop voting? This is Democratic?
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)ultimately no one's choice is being taken away..NO ONE
I can ask anyone to do any thing...is that removing choice? Does it mean I have to agree with what they decide to do?
Now grow up a little and realize this thread is about not agreeing with another political stand...no more no less. it's an opinion. Opinions are just that. They are no law, they are rarely compelling. They reflect the point of view of the person offering the opinion. Sheesh.
Chico Man
(3,001 posts)It would hardly persuade anyone of medium intelligence.
I know people on Facebook that post crap like this all the time. It makes not a difference in the world. It's like a pyramid scheme chain mail. And it's main purpose is to incite anger. It's part of the problem, nowhere near the solution.
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)Chico Man
(3,001 posts)And other social media sites. It is supposed to create a "meme".. It's not just 1 persons opinion.
Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)AND pseudo-Christians. As a Christian, I am disgusted by not only their animosity towards the President, but I'm disgusted by their unwillingness to contribute more in taxes to help their country while sitting back and letting working-class services be cut, their intolerance towards gays and immigrants, their desire to control women's private lives, and the bigotry towards minorities. The entire RW movement is a disgrace to true Christianity and the teachings of Christ. Rick Santorum is a fake Christian. Pat Robertson is a fake Christian. Mike Huckabee is a fake Christian. Chuck Norris is a fake Christian. You want to see a real Christian? Look at the man currently occupying the WH.
ladym55
(2,577 posts)whatever you do for the least of these ... yeah. Good Christians let small children go hungry.
Fake Christians abound in the Rethuglican Party.
KansDem
(28,498 posts)Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts). . . makes them feel better until they realize they aren't doing anything to help themselves, nor the rest of the people that live in their state, nor the rest of the people that live in other states in this country, or anyone else, but the corporations that donated to the campaigns of those Tea Party fanatics in the House of Representatives in the first place.
Lady Freedom Returns
(14,168 posts)ucrdem
(15,703 posts)And Greenwald has been dog-whistling for all he's worth, which apparently isn't enough for his own paper to pay him a salary.
p.s. comment is free.
Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts)I joined the Army on this day, 38 years ago, in 1975.
A few years later I got curious about my dad's service when he was in the Army during WWII.
So, I ordered a copy of his service record and I found out that he was drafted and enducted into the Army on Bastille Day, too.
Then, in 2004, when John Kerry was running for President, I looked at some of the military reocrds that he had put online.
And I found out that he joined the Navy on Bastille Day, too!!
That was kind of cool finding all that out years later.