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Whisp

(24,096 posts)
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 03:29 PM Sep 2013

The visitors from Home Page problem.

Has Skinner talked about having some sort of fix for this or do?

A lot of people see our posts on home page and don't realize it's the BOG, or so they say.

Should every new thread here have a prefix of BOG: on it? Or the whole Barack Obama Group (some don't know what BOG stands for).




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The visitors from Home Page problem. (Original Post) Whisp Sep 2013 OP
I think putting For the BOG in the subject line DevonRex Sep 2013 #1
if you block them are they able to see it on the home page ? JI7 Sep 2013 #4
They can see it.. they just aren't able to post Cha Sep 2013 #5
I have no clue. They can always take some initiative and trash this group DevonRex Sep 2013 #6
i think some people enjoy the feel of victimhood they get from this group's existence JI7 Sep 2013 #7
To be sure, some should have DevonRex Sep 2013 #8
There's that. Cha Sep 2013 #11
The thought of conceding is anathema to me. IrishAyes Sep 2013 #24
I understand and agree with you Devon. sheshe2 Sep 2013 #27
Your last sentence Hekate Sep 2013 #37
I generally affix a notice. Some ignore it and claim they didn't see it. Skinner has spoken to those freshwest Sep 2013 #2
Some of those terms don't seem to have much meaning. But DevonRex Sep 2013 #3
Or~ sheshe2 Sep 2013 #17
People need to trash the forum. NYC_SKP Sep 2013 #9
There was, NYC_SKP. sheshe2 Sep 2013 #12
Thanks, I remember only the first one. The second one is a hoot! NYC_SKP Sep 2013 #13
I know~ sheshe2 Sep 2013 #15
LOL! I missed that #2 one. Whisp Sep 2013 #21
Yeah well~ sheshe2 Sep 2013 #28
Here's another one Isoldeblue Sep 2013 #38
I discoverd the cure awhile ago the hard way, Whisp. I started Cha Sep 2013 #10
Perfect, but some might need this at the TOP of the post! NYC_SKP Sep 2013 #16
That works and may be necessary! greatauntoftriplets Sep 2013 #18
I am so stealing that! sheshe2 Sep 2013 #19
Exactly. Cha Sep 2013 #20
This works as a copy/paste. Whisp Sep 2013 #22
Use brackets, [ and ], where I've placed< and > below: NYC_SKP Sep 2013 #23
Okay, I'm trying that. greatauntoftriplets Sep 2013 #25
Change all the < for a [ and all the > for a ] NYC_SKP Sep 2013 #26
Let's see.... greatauntoftriplets Sep 2013 #30
Nice job! NYC_SKP Sep 2013 #32
Thanks. Had to wait until I woke up a bit. greatauntoftriplets Sep 2013 #33
It worked! Thanks. greatauntoftriplets Sep 2013 #31
Some do make that mistake, Whisp. sheshe2 Sep 2013 #14
I think if something is put the message it should be standard for the group davidpdx Sep 2013 #29
I think that's good idea davidpx. I've been putting mine Cha Sep 2013 #39
I'm shocked that these so called Coolest Ranger Sep 2013 #34
All good points, and I appreciate Skinner's support in ATA Hekate Sep 2013 #35
great point, Hekate. thanks. nt/ Whisp Sep 2013 #36
that's exactly why I didn't hit this Rec button, Hekate. Cha Sep 2013 #40

DevonRex

(22,541 posts)
1. I think putting For the BOG in the subject line
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 03:46 PM
Sep 2013

like Freshwest does is the best way. That way there is no possible excuse. Or BOG Post. Something. Then in the body, too, if you want to be doubly safe.

It sucks not to be able to discuss how bad it feels out there right now. But if we do, it'll be bad in here, too. If that happens, there is no place on Democratic Underground that posts positive news about Obama's agenda.

I don't know if everyone here is ready to concede defeat quite yet. Just going over the thoughts in my head right now.

Skinner has said before that the Obama Group will remain on the front, latest, greatest. People can trash groups they don't want to see. I agree with that. People who haven't trashed it want to see it for various reasons. If those reasons aren't good, we can block the person. Which I just did.

Cha

(305,418 posts)
5. They can see it.. they just aren't able to post
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 06:26 PM
Sep 2013

in the group any longer.

Skinner has suggested in AKA to those who are bothered by the BOG to trash the Group but I think they would still see it on the Home Page like I see threads on the HP that I have Trashed.

Just wouldn't be able to see it on the Greatest and hopefully not the Latest.

DevonRex

(22,541 posts)
6. I have no clue. They can always take some initiative and trash this group
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 06:31 PM
Sep 2013

just like Skinner has suggested many times since DU3 started, if even seeing the words "For the BOG" is too much to bear.

IrishAyes

(6,151 posts)
24. The thought of conceding is anathema to me.
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 09:11 PM
Sep 2013

GD is gradually losing me as a reader/responder. When I look through the list of subjects, I feel like I need to bathe in strong lye. But I'll surely fight to the last to keep trolls out of the BOG.

I'm sure most people know exactly what they're doing when they barge in here farting nonstop. A rare few newbies, perhaps well meaning ones, may not at first realize where they are. For their sake I think it would be best to begin OPs with "BARACK OBAMA GROUP" and maybe a brief statement as to the rules. Then land hard on repeat offenders.

sheshe2

(87,496 posts)
27. I understand and agree with you Devon.
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 10:16 PM
Sep 2013

Posting about what is happening on GD will bring in the ones that want to shut us down.

Skinner has answered that we will stay in GD. Thank you Skinner! I also know for a fact there are several unanswered questions in ATA about the BOG. I saw those posters discussing us in GD. They said they want to shut us down and planned to ask Skinner. Those were posted over a week ago. Skinner has not answered them. His silence has meaning. By his silence he is saying no to them.

Devon, I for one have no intention of being shut down. I do not concede defeat. None of us do. We have each others backs here. We will survive.

If our President can not be destroyed by the hate that is thrown at him every single day, why should we.

I have to say, we see this much hate for a black man as President. You have to wonder what we will see when a woman becomes President.

Hekate

(94,664 posts)
37. Your last sentence
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 01:08 PM
Sep 2013
I have to say, we see this much hate for a black man as President. You have to wonder what we will see when a woman becomes President.

Hillary would not be spared an iota of the hatred spewed on the Clintons over the years by the RW. What is so gut-wrenching is knowing by now that so much of it will be coming from the "Left" at DU. Elizabeth Warren, currently everyone's darling, will eventually disappoint. No one will ever measure up -- better (in some twisted minds) to have another Bush or Reagan in the WH than to have a Dem who fails to live up to their personal fantasy of perfection.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
2. I generally affix a notice. Some ignore it and claim they didn't see it. Skinner has spoken to those
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 03:55 PM
Sep 2013
who want our posts taken off the Greatest Page when they are popular so they don't have to be bothered with us.

Some say we should be purged from DU, or that our support of Obama was not in keeping with the DU, meaning they have not read the TOS, either:

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In the former case, he told them to use the Trash This Forum function. In the latter case, he said no one should be surprised that Democrats would support a Democratic POTUS on a website named Democratic Underground.

While some people have clearly violated many of the TOS, the Admins get rid of them eventually. I find that they are unerring fair and open minded and cognizant of the variety of opinions here.

Some posters do nothing but scour the internet to post negative views on Obama. They never find anything he or the party has done as good, which indicates to me they either never were Dems, stopped being Dems, have joined the Libertarians in real life or in spirit. They will never have anything but negative things to say, as they are not advocating what DU advocates in the TOS:

'Democratic Underground is an online community for politically liberal people who understand the importance of working within the system to elect more Democrats and fewer Republicans to all levels of political office.' When they have left the Dems behind in the dust, it's the right thing for them to bash and attack us. Not here, but anywhere. Rather hard to stop them, too, as they are extremely motivated as you can tell by the post counts.

So we have to grin and bear it just as those who can't stand that we exist will have to do the same. Those who cannot be honest or show the basic courtesy of respect this forum or any other, well...

That's why the Admins made the Ignore function. I don't allow anyone wipe their ass on me here or anywhere. And I'm not going to ever apologize for using what DU created to prevent being shit upon by people who cannot control themselves, or feel they are entitled to do so.

DevonRex

(22,541 posts)
3. Some of those terms don't seem to have much meaning. But
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 04:53 PM
Sep 2013

discussing what we experience out there does bring it in here, especially if generalizations are made. And we were all brought up not to name names or continue specific arguments from another thread.

That pretty much leaves us with sticking to our SOP and having no place to voice our frustrations. But, I don't see any way around that. We have always known this group was watched by DUers long before the current system. We want other DUers to read good things about the Obama agenda that are being done. They can get that here. And probably nowhere else on DU at this rate.

Personally, I wouldn't mind having a scream thread once in awhile. You know, just scream smileys. Or mad ones.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
9. People need to trash the forum.
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 06:42 PM
Sep 2013

I think there was a discussion in the ATA forum about this, but can't find it.

It would be nice if people could opt in as well as opt out, but really they just need to watch what they are doing.

But I think the idea of starting new topics with"BOG" might help.

sheshe2

(87,496 posts)
28. Yeah well~
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 11:54 PM
Sep 2013

"What if the Hokey Pokey is what it's all about?"

You put your right hand in,
You put your right hand out,
You put your right hand in,
And you shake it all about,

You do the hokey pokey
and you turn yourself around
That what it's all about.

2) left hand
3) right foot
4) left foot
5) head
6) butt
7) whole self


http://www.scoutsongs.com/lyrics/hokeypokey.html

That's deep... from their sig~~~~~



Cha

(305,418 posts)
10. I discoverd the cure awhile ago the hard way, Whisp. I started
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 06:44 PM
Sep 2013

writing this at the end of my post .. FYI: THIS IS POSTED IN THE BARACK OBAMA GROUP and now I do this.. [/font] [font color=blue] This is Posted in the Barack Obama Group [/font] and, it caught on for obvious reasons as de rigueur in starting a thread in the BOG. And, sometimes in the headline as in "For the BOG".

If we see a thread that doesn't have that at the end of the OP or in the Caption part we ask members to do it. It saves confusion and there's no excuses.

Thank you for asking these much needed questions for our Barack Obama Group.

In fact we should pin this for future BOG Thread starters.

[font color=blue] BOG [/font]

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
16. Perfect, but some might need this at the TOP of the post!
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 07:13 PM
Sep 2013
[font color="red" size="30"]This is Posted in the Barack Obama Group[/font]

Cha

(305,418 posts)
20. Exactly.
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 08:03 PM
Sep 2013

[font color=red] [font size=21pt]This is Posted in the Barack Obama Group[/font] [/font]

[font size=lg]We ♥ Hawaii [/font]




2011~

http://theobamadiary.com/2013/09/08/we-%e2%99%a5-hawaii/


 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
22. This works as a copy/paste.
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 08:22 PM
Sep 2013

This is Posted in the Barack Obama Group

yay

o, no it's doesn't It did in preview but not in post.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
23. Use brackets, [ and ], where I've placed< and > below:
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 08:25 PM
Sep 2013

.

<b><font color="red" size="30">This is Posted in the Barack Obama Group</font></b>

Make the number smaller for smaller font.

greatauntoftriplets

(176,851 posts)
25. Okay, I'm trying that.
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 09:49 PM
Sep 2013

<b><font color="red" size="30">This is Posted in the Barack Obama Group</font></b>



What did I do wrong?

sheshe2

(87,496 posts)
14. Some do make that mistake, Whisp.
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 07:10 PM
Sep 2013

A few I gave warnings to and they honored our group. I had one apologize to me, and then deleted their responses. They left the apology in the BOG. I thought that was a nice gesture.

Then we have the "or so they say" group.

I agree, every post should have a header stating that this is The Barack Obama Group.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
29. I think if something is put the message it should be standard for the group
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 05:25 AM
Sep 2013

and it should be at the top of the post so that as soon as the person clicks on it they see it along with a link to the BOG rules.

Cha

(305,418 posts)
39. I think that's good idea davidpx. I've been putting mine
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 05:12 PM
Sep 2013

at the end. But, it's more fair to put it at the beginning so nobody gets all set with their reply and then reads.. "This is the Barack Obama GROUP".

Coolest Ranger

(2,034 posts)
34. I'm shocked that these so called
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 09:16 AM
Sep 2013

freedom loving idiots want to have our group removed from Democratic Underground. Thank god Skinner had the fore sight to tell them to go stuff it.

Hekate

(94,664 posts)
35. All good points, and I appreciate Skinner's support in ATA
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 12:56 PM
Sep 2013

Sometimes simply by not answering

A suggestion for my fellow BOGgers, though: If we are having an internal discussion, as we are just now, might we refrain from hitting the Rec button? I know, I sometimes do it automatically just to show I agree, but lately I've been asking myself if it's something I really want on the front page.

We have things we need to talk about regarding the functioning of the BOG, but there's no point in doing it in a completely hostile environment.

Hekate

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