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"I can guarantee you this...." (Original Post) babylonsister Sep 2013 OP
Kick to the Greatest Page! sheshe2 Sep 2013 #1
Yeah, but WE WILL! silverweb Sep 2013 #2
Forever! Cha Sep 2013 #4
And ever! silverweb Sep 2013 #7
Indeed quakerboy Sep 2013 #10
I'm going on a picnis this weekend ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2013 #11
yup, never let them forget it JI7 Sep 2013 #12
Glad somebody made that quote into a graphic, babylonsistah! Cha Sep 2013 #3
Bee-yoo-ti-ful... IrishAyes Sep 2013 #5
Epic photo, good for any meme. Thanks, babylonsister. Love all these. freshwest Sep 2013 #6
The Crew are Sinking~~~~ sheshe2 Sep 2013 #8
that is soooo true! BlancheSplanchnik Sep 2013 #9
He's trying to sell it, and I applaud that BlueStreak Sep 2013 #13
K & R. n/t FSogol Sep 2013 #14
they started it too treestar Sep 2013 #15
But I bet all the history books will! Lolol Pretzel_Warrior Sep 2013 #16

quakerboy

(14,136 posts)
10. Indeed
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 10:35 PM
Sep 2013

Whatever results happen, its firmly labeled as Obamacare. Hopefully that bites em in the ass but good.

The down side is that any parts that the other side manages to break, for instance issues with people making sub-subsidy wages in states that decline medicaid funding also continue to bear the name.

But I suspect the name is stuck no matter how they try to twist and spin. And spin they will.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
11. I'm going on a picnis this weekend ...
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 10:58 PM
Sep 2013

the weatherman said it was going to be a wonderful weekend, sunshiny and warm ... but it might be a little windy.

IrishAyes

(6,151 posts)
5. Bee-yoo-ti-ful...
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 09:06 PM
Sep 2013

I've always said the rethugs will try to rebrand it as their own and brag about how they 'saved' the country from Obamacare. Shameless hypocrites, the whole lot. Looks like it might cost them the midterms, too.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
6. Epic photo, good for any meme. Thanks, babylonsister. Love all these.
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 09:11 PM
Sep 2013

The 'Left Behind' crew of the GOP is still banging their heads on the wall.

It must be a resonant frequency event. They're all thick as bricks.

Sadly, there's no cure, but at least under the ACA it'll be treated as a pre-existing condition.



BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
9. that is soooo true!
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 10:17 PM
Sep 2013

They'll be revving up their noise machine and having their closed-loop idiots believing their rewrite.

 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
13. He's trying to sell it, and I applaud that
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 11:43 PM
Sep 2013

I don't really agree with the strategy of laying low for 2 years until right before the exchanges open up, but maybe that is the best strategy.

But there is a huge exposure here. We have a majorly f%%%ed up health care system and the ACA mainly addresses insurance coverage for people who didn't really have a big problem --they just went to the ER and didn't pay the bills. It is a good thing to clean up that aspect of our HC system, but that doesn't begin to touch the things that are really killing people. I buried my mother today (well, to be accurate, put her in a mausoleum). She was the victim of the "specialty stovepiping" that has overtaken our system in the past 20 years. The real money is in specialties, so the PC docs respond by taking on 4000 patients and basically give flu shots. Nobody looks over the whole patient, and I don't see anything in ACA that even tries to address that.

And here's the problem. Come January 1, maybe there will be fewer ripoffs by insurance companies, but people will still be killed every day by this mess of a delivery system we have. And when they do, lots of people will point the finger and say "See I told you Obamacare was a terrible idea."

There really is no way to win at this thing. But it is still worth waging this campaign. We'll just have to be prepared to fight all those anecdotes as they come up.

OTOH, the GOP has been so hyperbolic in predicting the end of the universe because of Obamacare that we do have an opportunity to turn the tables on them. "Why should anybody vote for a person who was so very wrong about Obamacare?"

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