Barack Obama
Related: About this forumIf President Obama had his way, single payer would be law today
I firmly believe that. I really think he has a good heart and truly cares for the American people. ACA was the best we could get with the a************e Republicans.
Baby steps, baby steps, single payer one day.
Steve
Aristus
(68,334 posts)I get a little tired of Democrats laying the blame for all the world's ills on the President.
We have Republicans for that.
Loudly
(2,436 posts)Anti-ACA sentiment absolutely requires it, and cannot be mollified.
steve2470
(37,468 posts)1- The idealistic side of me completely agrees with you.
2- The cynical, as realistic as possible political side of me is wary. It astounds me that the ACA, as mild as it is, gets such fury from some of the American people. What would happen if we went all out for Medicare for All ? I guess we have to take the plunge. There is no dipping toe into the water, unless it's to tweak the ACA.
Loudly
(2,436 posts)Even the "we can't afford it" objection is overcome by expansion of the risk pool, since Medicare in its present form is skewed toward end-of-life care, the most expensive kind.
steve2470
(37,468 posts)However, I think the RW and Republicans would be screaming socialism. It would be a very tough fight. Can we win it right now ? Only if massive amounts of money and people time are put into it. Otherwise, it will go down in flames. I hate to be so negative, but freaking hell, people are calling ACA socialism ! What BS.
Loudly
(2,436 posts)is that it is an existing and overwhelmingly popular program.
So why is it good to offer it to seniors and bad to offer it to everyone else?
I'm not worried about messaging that one at all.
What worries me is trying to thread the needle of how the benefits of ACA are worth the dislocations.
That seems like an utterly futile endeavor in an election year.
steve2470
(37,468 posts)so yes, that reassures me about framing it as Medicare for All. Medicare is a hugely popular program.
LostOne4Ever
(9,597 posts)But some people think just by waving a magic wand Obama can make a little thing called politics magically vanish, and then get mad at HIM for the REPUBLICANS BEING ASSHOLES!!!
Sorry, venting a bit about one of the ACA threads in GD
ebbie15644
(1,234 posts)VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)ebbie15644
(1,234 posts)VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)did get. Don't let the good be the enemy of the perfect.
classof56
(5,376 posts)1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)If Single-payer were all and all, why has only one (maybe, 2) jurisdiction(s) taken advantage of the ACA provision that allows states to their own public option?
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)to think it is....
ebbie15644
(1,234 posts)Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)And it is the GOP health care plan, now they do not have an alternate plan. Medicare was passed and has improved over the years and it was the Democratic plan. Why it has taken so many years to get any health care passed while many other countries has done this and it works well for them. I have been fortunate to have had health insurance but have always supported health care for all. President has a lot on his shoulders but I will always remember him for getting ACA passed. Thanks Mr President.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)Now they are eating their own....
Thanks Mr President indeed!
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)job 100 years in the making.
sheshe2
(87,490 posts)You are right, obstructionists thy name is Republican.
Whisp
(24,096 posts)but there will always be a slice of Stupid that truly believes he is the evil satan man, sent to destroy us all - and laugh at his handiwork of destruction while watching the suffering.
And I don't mean the Baggers.
steve2470
(37,468 posts)It's revealing.
steve2470
(37,468 posts)I think I need to hide in here a while. The feedback on my thread in GD is...amazing.