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President Obama totally under attack (Original Post) workinclasszero Jun 2015 OP
So I'm not the only one who noticed shenmue Jun 2015 #1
I'm sure it's because of the great poll results from Iowa workinclasszero Jun 2015 #3
Yep shenmue Jun 2015 #5
It's like rotten milk. lovemydog Jun 2015 #4
It's kind of funny to me in a way. lovemydog Jun 2015 #2
All I can say is workinclasszero Jun 2015 #6
As you know, I'll support and vote for the democratic nominee lovemydog Jun 2015 #10
TPP HassleCat Jun 2015 #7
Sorry I'm on my phone...here is the link workinclasszero Jun 2015 #8
The rooms as you call them, sheshe2 Jun 2015 #15
Case in point HassleCat Jun 2015 #17
You have the whole board to "discuss" and talk about his "mistakes".. you don't come in here Cha Jun 2015 #20
Talk to Skinner in ATA if you don't like the Groups.. he set them up that way for us to have Cha Jun 2015 #19
Some of the RW attacks sounds like the talk show rantings. Here is a president who has worked hard Thinkingabout Jun 2015 #9
How did they expect President Obama to make workinclasszero Jun 2015 #11
Holy Shit. sheshe2 Jun 2015 #12
No kidding! workinclasszero Jun 2015 #13
True! nt sheshe2 Jun 2015 #14
This site Jamaal510 Jun 2015 #16
they really can't see the whole Forest.. poor things.. they're Cha Jun 2015 #18
Agreed workinclasszero Jun 2015 #21
 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
3. I'm sure it's because of the great poll results from Iowa
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 09:32 PM
Jun 2015

today.

Shows Hillary with a comanding lead and also president Obama being super popular with the voters

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
2. It's kind of funny to me in a way.
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 09:31 PM
Jun 2015

Cha and others have brought it up too. How they can expect to form a winning coalition without the Obama coalition, I do not know. I'm leaning toward Bernie at this time. If I vote for him it won't be because of their posts trashing the President. I kind of let a lot of that stuff slide, because a lot of people get really up in arms about stuff every day here. I guess a lot of people just like to vent. Myself, I can't imagine even feeling, let alone typing, some of the vitriol that comes from their fingers. Practically every single day since he has been President, lol.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
6. All I can say is
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 09:36 PM
Jun 2015

No democratic candidate can win without the Obama coalition.

The republicans are praying that Bernie splits the party. It will hand the presidency to them on a sliver platter!

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
10. As you know, I'll support and vote for the democratic nominee
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 09:51 PM
Jun 2015

for President.

I just responded in that thread too, thanks for pointing it out.

 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
7. TPP
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 09:41 PM
Jun 2015

I can't find the thread you mention, but I realize some people, not just Sander supporters, are calling the president rude names because he supports TPP and fast track authority. It's the nature of the "rooms" here that you can say anything nasty about anyone other than the candidate for whom the room is established, and anyone who criticizes you for going over the top is called out for being disloyal, a troll, etc. I don't really agree with this philosophy, but that seems to be the way it is. You have to realize there will be flamers in any group of people, even those who support a pretty mild-mannered candidate. We do need to point out that it's not good to criticize Democrats in certain ways, that we need to keep it civil, etc. but the rooms seem to be insulated against such reminders.

sheshe2

(87,475 posts)
15. The rooms as you call them,
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 11:33 PM
Jun 2015

They are a place for us to calm down and talk.

This is the BOG. This place is ours. Go to GD! Leave us alone here.

A place to laugh and hug each other. It is a place to have some fun and celebrate.

This

" It's the nature of the "rooms" here that you can say anything nasty about anyone other than the candidate for whom the room is established, and anyone who criticizes you for going over the top is called out for being disloyal, a troll, etc. I don't really agree with this philosophy, but that seems to be the way it is. You have to realize there will be flamers in any group of people, even those who support a pretty mild-mannered candidate. We do need to point out that it's not good to criticize Democrats in certain ways, that we need to keep it civil, etc. but the rooms seem to be insulated against such reminders."


Oh please give me a break. Go read GD some more. Do not talk to me about nasty here!

You seriously said this?

We do need to point out that it's not good to criticize Democrats in certain ways, that we need to keep it civil, etc. but the rooms seem to be insulated against such reminders


Seriously? GD has become a hate fest for Dems. Forget the GOP, lets trash DEMOCRATS!!!!!!!! Yeah DU!

Read GD. GD is civil and the groups are not? OMFG!

Skinner called it here. FYI. He owns this site.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1102&pid=29172



FYI. Read This Before You Post Again.

The mission of the Barack Obama Group is to discuss information and news about the life, career, accomplishments, and presidency of Barack Obama; to provide a haven for those members of Democratic Underground who support the president and his policies; to discuss President Obama's policy positions, speeches, interviews, and other public appearances; to discuss President Obama's political campaigns; and to discuss the causes which President Obama has championed, including health care reform and ending the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.

Those who have a generally negative view of President Obama and his administration, support his defeat in the 2012 presidential election (in primaries or the general election), or who are generally supportive of those who do, are not welcome in the Barack Obama Group.


I am a host. Read and abide by it or you will be blocked.





 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
17. Case in point
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 10:43 AM
Jun 2015

I have been threatened with blocks from at least two other groups, so this is the third such threat. This is interesting because I voted for Obama both times, sent him money, handed out some bumper stickers, etc. So my support is pretty strong, and I would never flame him or call him names. I believe he's a great president. But I believe it's OK to say he makes mistakes, rather than deny he is fallible. If you read the mission statement of your group, you will see it says "discuss" rather than "unconditionally praise." And it says the group is a safe haven for those who support the president and his policies. It does not say anyone who provides constructive criticism is a traitor. It does not say anyone who fails to gush praise all over the president should be blocked. It does not say you get to jump all over me for pointing out why some criticism may be understandable. Obviously, you feel being a host means everybody has to agree with you and refrain from contradicting what you say. That seems pretty normal for the groups here, and it reflects the view that only those who have been purified at the altar of suspended incredulity can participate in the group. If that's what you want, OK, but I would have thought you wanted a forum that could accept criticism and discuss it intelligently, without the flaming and name calling found in GD. Some of the president's best and most loyal supporters criticize him occasionally. Your mission statement reflects this, but your block threats do not.

Cha

(305,400 posts)
20. You have the whole board to "discuss" and talk about his "mistakes".. you don't come in here
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 08:54 PM
Jun 2015

to insult us.. and tell us how to run his group.

You're showing no respect for the Barack Obama Group. We know what the mission statement says.. we've been here for years. So, sorry, again.. you don't get to come in and explain it to us and how you want it to go.

Bye.

Cha

(305,400 posts)
19. Talk to Skinner in ATA if you don't like the Groups.. he set them up that way for us to have
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 08:41 PM
Jun 2015

a safe haven.

Not really for anyone to come in here and tell people in their groups that they don't like it.

Thanks for respecting our rules.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
9. Some of the RW attacks sounds like the talk show rantings. Here is a president who has worked hard
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 09:47 PM
Jun 2015

To return the respect to the US we knew in the past. He worked to get a healthcare bill passed and then you hear the bitching it should have been universal. Yes universal would have been better but what we got was much better than when we didn't have the ACA. I was fortunate to have health insurance throughout my life but the ACA removed the cap on my medical. It also removed pre-existing conditions. Both of these has helped me a lot, I am on the winning side with ACA.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
11. How did they expect President Obama to make
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 09:53 PM
Jun 2015

the Republican controlled Congress do everything he wanted to do?

March in the army and arrest them all? I mean damn he did great things considering the hell he's had to deal with.

I think President Obama will be considered one of the greats in the future

sheshe2

(87,475 posts)
12. Holy Shit.
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 10:16 PM
Jun 2015

They found a Savior in Obama. Then left him on his own.

He never said I am the one you are waiting for. He said.

Change will not come if we wait for some other person or some other time. We are the ones we've been waiting for. We are the change that we seek.

Barack Obama

Read more at http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/b/barackobam409128.html#PkkZyCKyRqvcefuH.99

They sit on their fucking asses and complain.

Sadly this is no longer Democratic Underground.

Skinner says it best.

It was intended to imply an aggressive anti-Republican orientation.

We were the "Underground" fighting against the Republicans, who were in power at the time.

Ironically, it seems that many people took the name to mean "Underground fighting against Democrats." I was so naive. Back when I started this site I had no clue so many Democrats hated Democrats.

http://election.democraticunderground.com/12597937#post1


Posted by hrmjustin here.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/11077096

Now what do we see? Bash a Democrat as harshly as you can every fucking day.

Hey "Progressives", way to lose a party. No wonder we are fucked.
 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
13. No kidding!
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 10:24 PM
Jun 2015

You can't tell a deference between freakrepublic and DU anymore!

Shit they hate Hillary and President Obama equally with the same amount of venom, sleaze and lies!

This place is really out of control. Wow...

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
16. This site
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 05:38 AM
Jun 2015

is straying away from what I first thought it was in 2012. It's turning into the same hate-fest as most other political forums. I hate to admit it, but it almost feels like someone is giving people orders to come here and start shit. People claim to support certain political figures, then use them against either Obama, Hillary, or the party in general. It looks weird when:

a. You're attacking the same party more than the other party.
b. You have more negative posts about a candidate of the same party than positive ones for your supposed candidate, and...
c. You click on positive posts of a candidate or political figure of the same party just to write something snarky and negative.

I'll be honest--I wouldn't put up with this at all if I had a similar site. If it's obvious that people have nothing positive to say, and just want to start trouble, out they go.
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I don't think the TOS is as strictly enforced as it should be. It clearly says to "don't be a wingnut", but people continue to act nutty and post lies about 2 of the party's most popular figures, despite their accomplishments and popularity even among self-proclaimed liberals.

Cha

(305,400 posts)
18. they really can't see the whole Forest.. poor things.. they're
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 08:31 PM
Jun 2015

so invested in their ignorant snipes at the President. Hundreds of recs for "The Trojan Horse President" "Fucking POS Used Car Salesman", "he not a Dem.." etc.. they have no fucking clue that whomever wins the Nom will need the Democratic President campaigning for them and with Them.

And at this point I hope it's Hillary Clinton. Sen Sanders supporters on DU have turned me off him completely.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
21. Agreed
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 10:03 PM
Jun 2015

Mr Sanders has some good ideas but his followers are rude and care zero about the democratic party which is what the democratic underground is all about.

I couldn't even think about supporting any candidate with groups of followers viciously slamming all other democrats in the race and our President as well.

Disagree with them? Fine.

Post conspiracy theories straight from fux news/freakrepublic/redstate? You've gone way, way, way to far when that crap happens.

And that happens 24/7 in GD lately.

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