He'd no more be allowed the presidency than would Dennis Kucinich.

I hope they both run!

if he wants to be in it, why not run for lower office?

Why not emmulate the great Jerry Brown and just run.
Being a talking head is great for the pocketbook, but you gotta be in it to do anything but yap

so why not run for senate or some house seat somewhere? Or Gov. or Mayor or something.

He could win a red seat somewhere, why not?

Of course, he could be Hillary45's VP. There are many people who could.
He would be one of them.

again, solely because of the party's makeup and the demographic change, it will not be a white male who is nominated in 2016.
It would be political suicide for the dems to do that, and they know that.
Again, solely based on the party itself and demographics.

Sanders, Leahy, Welch. And I don't think he's interested in being governor again (plus he might be termed out).

why the need to be senator or governor

why not mayor or house

like Jerry Brown did in between terms as governor

Also, I'm not sure why he would want to be Mayor of Burlington or something like that. He wants national media access.

so it's media he wants(ego?), or to serve the party or the people?

better to win a house seat and make it easier to win the house in general to get what one wants passed.

that's why I love Jerry Brown.
He became Mayor of Oakland, became ag, became a few other jobs in between and wasn't in it to do anything but serve the public, of which he has done about the best possible job of anyone.

it's getting things done that is important, not the ego trip.

imho
(and I hope Jerry runs for reelection, and secretly would love Jerry to be Hillary's VP, but I doubt that is on the table)

He's be 67 in 2016. The thing is he has executive experience, but not much in the way of foreign policy. I tend to agree he'd be a good VP nominee.

Fair or not, the last run pretty much ended in embarassment for him and the party. Biden, Clinton, and probably a few others are more electable.

we have a strong nationwide ground effort in place to get dems in office because of his leadership in the DNC. One could be at least a WEE bit grateful.

Bush embarrassed his party daily, here and abroad. it mattered not.

But I do see Dean as a vice-pres possibility, not at the top of the ticket, not realistically.

I am, I just don't think he's an asset as a national candidate at this point.

I would like to see him run with other candidates in 2016 primary, the debates would be excellent.

And possible VP position for DEan.

We have to try to do better than the center-right expected crowd.

untethered.....

...I'm tethering myself to the Biden Blimp.