Hillary Clinton
Related: About this forumI was against posting negative stuff about Sanders tonight. But after his speech, the way he
remained quiet when his crowd booing Hillary, well, forget it.
He refuses to concede, so the fight is still on!
William769
(55,830 posts)UMTerp01
(1,048 posts)Hillary will be the nominee. Everyone needs to just keep their cool and let this play out. Sanders does deserve some time to concede.
sheshe2
(87,556 posts)And no amount of spin will change that.
UMTerp01
(1,048 posts)Walk away
(9,494 posts)Haveadream
(1,630 posts)This serves nothing but his ego at the expense of everyone else.
LenaBaby61
(6,991 posts)Hillary is the leader of the party...
Bernie doesn't have the right to blackmail the party into doing what he wants them to do.
MADem
(135,425 posts)I lost, or I was wrong, or I made a mistake.
He's got to back slowly into that "I lost" position, and then he has to pivot and support Clinton. If he doesn't do that after he gets roundly and soundly beaten in DC, then his name is mud.
Maru Kitteh
(29,105 posts)It's okay, he lost. I don't need to attack him really anymore. It's over.
Now - Susan Sarandon, Weaver, DeVine and Turner? Those nit-wits have duly earned whatever nastiness comes to them from me or anyone else.
MarianJack
(10,237 posts)...Rosario Dawson, who needs to go back to taking her clothes off in bad movies, you know...something she's actually good at doing!
PEACE!
PJMcK
(22,890 posts)MarianJack
(10,237 posts)It was my I'll mannered intent to be rude!
PEACE!
I have to say, I caught a whiff of that on occasion. Unintentional, I'm sure, but people are products of their environments, aren't they?
Devine is probably busy counting his cash--he got RICH off of that contest.
I can't wait to read/see the book/movie on this primary election--ya gotta know that the inner workings of the BS camp were likely rife with competing priorities. I hope they do one, because I think this was the more interesting of the two primary contests.
wysi
(1,514 posts)I kept yelling at the TV "Now tell us you are quitting!". Of course he's not.
still_one
(96,565 posts)primary, but the lack of class in the speech he gave tonight was garbage.
Looks like California didn't buy the magic beans he was trying to sell
OKNancy
(41,832 posts)LiberalFighter
(53,475 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)Look at all this "Not MY Fault"-ing!!!!! And all this isn't coming from CLINTON--it's coming from INSIDE THE (Bernie) HOUSE!!!!!!
Subtext: Even if "I" gave different advice....
Subtext: He's a loose cannon--he could 'go off' at any minute!
Subtext: He's angry and vengeful.
Subtext: He's impetuous, his judgment is lousy, and he doesn't listen.
All of this shade is coming from HIS OWN PEOPLE--not outsiders. I'm amazed they didn't break ranks sooner!
sarae
(3,284 posts)Just sayin'.
KewlKat
(5,650 posts)He was the one who made the choice to go after Democratic National Committee chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz after his wife read him a transcript of her blasting him on television.
He chose the knife fight over calling Clinton unqualified, which aides blame for pulling the bottom out of any hopes they had of winning in New York and their last real chance of turning a losing primary run around.
And when Jimmy Kimmels producers asked Sanders campaign for a question to ask Donald Trump, Sanders himself wrote the one challenging the Republican nominee to a debate.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/bernie-sanders-campaign-last-days-224041#ixzz4Ayp0Tvfd
he's as cantankerous as I thought he was....seems bitter about everything. He won't leave the race anytime soon...............
and wonder where his supporters get some of their clues from?
..., Sanders is himself filled with resentment, on edge, feeling like he gets no respect -- all while holding on in his head to the enticing but remote chance that Clinton may be indicted before the convention.
MADem
(135,425 posts)I think they believe Sanders will try to re-write history when he (or Jane, so they can keep the profits) writes a big book about the campaign.
This looks like a coordinated bit of truth-telling--by his OWN staff.
That's never good. For the candidate, anyway. When loyalty is the first casualty, it's all over but the heart-wrenching tears.
KewlKat
(5,650 posts)I see no difference in his and drumpf's personalities.....the article is a MUST READ.
obamanut2012
(27,810 posts)During his concession speech to Obama. McCain, of all people, did the right thing.
justiceischeap
(14,040 posts)is that McCain knew his campaign was being devisive, mostly with his Palin pick being the catalyst of all the nastiness and he was ready to put that to bed for the good of the nation.
Sanders, after his extortion speech last night, only cares about himself and his movement. Last night, IMO, was him overplaying his hand. Where he could have been gracious and supportive as most adults are in the face of loss, he double-downed on bitterness and I don't think it'll play out for him the way he thinks it will. Last night he damaged his relationship with the Dem Party leaders, particularly the head of the party, Hillary Clinton. If he thinks he can hold Clinton over a barrel, he hasn't been paying much attention to her over the years.
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)win all the states, esp California, by huge margins. He made no adjustments despite being crushed by the voters.
His and his family's attitudes when they took the stage, beaming like winners, was so delusional, like they live in an alternate universe
beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)she should have done a full scale attack on sanders...his past...congressional record, vote record.....we wouldn't be at this point now. She played nice hoping sanders had some type of class, which of course, he doesn't
proven every day
TwilightZone
(28,833 posts)At this point, all of this is just political theater on Sanders part. In the end, he's only harming his "movement" by being obstinate and in denial about the fact that it's over.
When someone insists on flaming out, sometimes you just have to let them.
MADem
(135,425 posts)She played it JUST right--she was the only adult in the room (and I include the shit-stirring Trump in that equation).
Sanders' own STAFF is running from him, blaming him, and stuffing him under the bus.
I'll bet they've already started writing their books. I'll be interested in reading 'em.
When WEAVER (supposedly a good buddy from way back) is quoted as saying, in essence, "Ya can't talk to this guy when he makes up his mind" you know that he was not, is not, was never, and will never be presidential timber.
SharonClark
(10,324 posts)His report card would say "Doesn't play well with others".
MADem
(135,425 posts)sarae
(3,284 posts)mercuryblues
(15,122 posts)Many here suspected that he would not be tactful. He knows there is ZERO chance of winning so what does he do? Let's the crowd boo Clinton, which he has allowed through his entire campaign. Disgusting. He is certainly making no friends in the Democratic party. Bernie is the only one who can pass his purity test...a party of one.
From the politico article:
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/bernie-sanders-campaign-last-days-224041#ixzz4AzgKUzol
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This was a big failure on his campaign's part. Refusing to get behind dems running for office, because they did not meet his purity test. Whereas Clinton built up massive support and a coalition of supporters. Ideological purity was not a prerequisite for help. She knows that to get things passed in Washington you need a majority of votes, not ideological purity.
Yes, that entire article is well worth the read. I am amazed that many here were close in their assessment of him and the campaign he ran. Two factions in his campaign. One that knows math and one that ignored the math. Bernie aligned himself with the math deniers.
The party and Clinton have to bow to him, for his support. I doubt he will take a backseat to someone who is not as pure as him.
Blue Idaho
(5,500 posts)He will continue to beat his dead horse until there is nothing left but it's bones. Frankly I don't expect Sanders to concede to Sec. Clinton - he will simply turn tail and continue to brood until the snow starts falling in Vermont.
He will never support Hillary. You will never hear a full throated endorsement. You will never see him campaigning for Sec. Clinton. I think he has decided his "movement" is bigger than - more important than electing a Democrat. In fact - more important than electing any Democrat.
To hell with him and his delusions of grandeur.
Arkansas Granny
(31,832 posts)He can't hurt Hillary now, and there's no need to irritate his supporters. I remember my disappointment in 2008.
MADem
(135,425 posts)It lets those of us who support Clinton know what the challenges will be in getting Sanders to adjust his world view. It suggests that he might not "pivot" as easily as most do.
And it is coming from his own people--this isn't outsiders trying to be "mean to Bernie" or anything like that.
It sounds, to me, like even his closest staffers are starting to distance themselves from his histrionics. They don't want to be blamed if he decides to get really difficult.
Legends303
(481 posts)and still are on twitter these people really have no shame. They are going to try to override the will of the American people who voted for a clear nomniee because their ego was hurt. I don't think Sanders is not going to go quietly.
Loki
(3,826 posts)n/t