Hillary Clinton

Iamaartist

(3,300 posts) Wed Jun 8, 2016, 09:10 AM Jun 2016

The Daily 202: Primary wins show Hillary Clinton needs the left less than pro-Sanders liberals think

THE BIG IDEA: The scope and scale of Hillary Clinton’s victories last night ameliorates much of the pressure that she has been under to pander to Bernie Sanders and his supporters.

California was the biggest delegate prize of 2016 for Democrats. Sanders spent the better part of the past month camped out there. And Clinton beat him by 13 points – or nearly half a million votes.

She won the second most valuable prize available last night, New Jersey, by 26 points. And she defeated Sanders in New Mexico and South Dakota.

The Democratic coalition will ultimately unify behind Clinton – as long as she pays a modicum of respect to Sanders, which she will – because the liberal base does not want Donald Trump to become president. And Clinton benefits enormously from growing concerns among independent voters about the presumptive Republican nominee.

more on article

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/paloma/daily-202/2016/06/08/daily-202-primary-wins-show-hillary-clinton-needs-the-left-less-than-pro-sanders-liberals-think/5757867a981b92a22deb72ee/

16 replies

= new reply since forum marked as read

Highlight:

The Daily 202: Primary wins show Hillary Clinton needs the left less than pro-Sanders liberals think (Original Post) Iamaartist Jun 2016 OP

I have been saying this all year. stopbush Jun 2016 #1

I agree,she will win with a landside.... Iamaartist Jun 2016 #5

THAT is a thing of beauty! teamster633 Jun 2016 #11

The early cycle meme of "Hillary wins states that don't matter because they're red" ended up TwilightZone Jun 2016 #2

I agree Iamaartist Jun 2016 #6

Karma Cha Jun 2016 #7

Or a lack of understanding about the diversity of the voting public TwilightZone Jun 2016 #8

Huge lack.. rather obstinate Cha Jun 2016 #10

I was concerned with the tightening race, especially when combined with all the new registrations. TwilightZone Jun 2016 #12

Oh yeah, thanks for the reminder... all those new registration numbers, too. Cha Jun 2016 #13

The holdout have always been meaningless even if they all, stupidly, voted for Trump... Walk away Jun 2016 #3

LOL YOU WONT GET IN TROUBLE WITH TRUMP VOTERS LOL.... WE ALL FEEL THE SAME WAY.... Iamaartist Jun 2016 #9

We need their lies about Hillary even less. nt BootinUp Jun 2016 #4

West & Zogby were the last straw for many. grossproffit Jun 2016 #14

West was when I fully realized that the critiques of Sanders as vindictive and petty were dead-on TwilightZone Jun 2016 #15

Yep. n/t Lucinda Jun 2016 #16

stopbush

(24,630 posts)

1. I have been saying this all year.

Reply to Iamaartist (Original post)

Wed Jun 8, 2016, 09:18 AM

Jun 2016

The rabid, BoB types are a small percentage of Ds. Most of them are indies. I would guess that less than 5% of Ds fall into the BoB category.

Independents never decide elections. Never. They divide evenly between leaning heavily D or heavily R. Only 5% of indies would equally consider the D and R candidate. The rest are actually Ds and Rs who simply don't want the party label attached to their name. So that's a wash when it comes to elections.

Only one thing really matters: turning out your base. If you do that, you win, especially if you're the Ds, because there are more Ds in this country than Rs.

There's lots of enthusiasm for Hillary, little for Trump. Hillary will win in a landslide.

Iamaartist

(3,300 posts)

5. I agree,she will win with a landside....

Reply to stopbush (Reply #1)

Wed Jun 8, 2016, 09:26 AM

Jun 2016

She will more likely let BS do what he wants ,sooner or later he will fall ..on his own.....

?resize=807x807

teamster633

(2,032 posts)

11. THAT is a thing of beauty!

Reply to Iamaartist (Reply #5)

Wed Jun 8, 2016, 09:53 AM

Jun 2016

TwilightZone

(28,833 posts)

2. The early cycle meme of "Hillary wins states that don't matter because they're red" ended up

Reply to Iamaartist (Original post)

Wed Jun 8, 2016, 09:20 AM

Jun 2016

morphing into those being the only states Sanders could win by the end.

Iamaartist

(3,300 posts)

6. I agree

Reply to TwilightZone (Reply #2)

Wed Jun 8, 2016, 09:30 AM

Jun 2016

Cha

(305,440 posts)

7. Karma

Reply to TwilightZone (Reply #2)

Wed Jun 8, 2016, 09:34 AM

Jun 2016

TwilightZone

(28,833 posts)

8. Or a lack of understanding about the diversity of the voting public

Reply to Cha (Reply #7)

Wed Jun 8, 2016, 09:38 AM

Jun 2016

combined with an inability to plan more than a state or two ahead at a time.

Cha

(305,440 posts)

10. Huge lack.. rather obstinate

Reply to TwilightZone (Reply #8)

Wed Jun 8, 2016, 09:50 AM

Jun 2016

About California.. I would think they know him by now..he spent over a month there and beau coup bucks and he still lost by 13%.. almost the Bronx territory.

So glad.. I was not happy when I saw those polls that had Hillary leading by only 2 %.

TwilightZone

(28,833 posts)

12. I was concerned with the tightening race, especially when combined with all the new registrations.

Reply to Cha (Reply #10)

Wed Jun 8, 2016, 09:56 AM

Jun 2016

Three polls in a row showed it +2, but 538 still had it close to double digits. Had no idea what to think.

I was hoping for a solid win to put an exclamation point on the race and help people move forward. Thankfully, that's what happened, both in CA and in the other states where she outperformed expectations.

Cha

(305,440 posts)

13. Oh yeah, thanks for the reminder... all those new registration numbers, too.

Reply to TwilightZone (Reply #12)

Wed Jun 8, 2016, 10:04 AM

Jun 2016

Yes, a solid win is what we were going for.. It's surreal right now.. she did it! Getting all those California Dems out to Vote!

Walk away

(9,494 posts)

3. The holdout have always been meaningless even if they all, stupidly, voted for Trump...

Reply to Iamaartist (Original post)

Wed Jun 8, 2016, 09:23 AM

Jun 2016

(I hope I don't get a "hide for calling Trump voters stupid), Hillary will be sitting at her desk in the Oval Office in January 2017!

Iamaartist

(3,300 posts)

9. LOL YOU WONT GET IN TROUBLE WITH TRUMP VOTERS LOL.... WE ALL FEEL THE SAME WAY....

Reply to Walk away (Reply #3)

Wed Jun 8, 2016, 09:44 AM

Jun 2016

BootinUp

(49,036 posts)

4. We need their lies about Hillary even less. nt

Reply to Iamaartist (Original post)

Wed Jun 8, 2016, 09:25 AM

Jun 2016

grossproffit

(5,591 posts)

14. West & Zogby were the last straw for many.

Reply to Iamaartist (Original post)

Wed Jun 8, 2016, 10:07 AM

Jun 2016

The few BS supporters that I know via Twitter had had enough after that.

TwilightZone

(28,833 posts)

15. West was when I fully realized that the critiques of Sanders as vindictive and petty were dead-on

Reply to grossproffit (Reply #14)

Wed Jun 8, 2016, 10:18 AM

Jun 2016

It was a direct shot at President Obama for some perceived slight that Sanders probably can't even explain.

The guy's not even a Democrat. Putting him on a platform committee for the party made no sense.

Lucinda

(31,170 posts)

16. Yep. n/t

Reply to Iamaartist (Original post)

Wed Jun 8, 2016, 10:27 AM

Jun 2016

Reply to this discussion