We really are a subversive group. 13% margin. It's like we all collectively decided to go large even without all knowing each other.

Those who bully are enemies of democracy. Those who peacefully vote are friends of democracy. It is all very simple, really.

quiet about it in public.

I knew California would go for Hillary; that she'd win this State and the majority of delegates. I didn't think it was going to be 13%, though. I was thinking more along the lines between 7-10%, which, considering that NPPs could vote in the Democratic Party primary, was pretty generous! lol

I'm sorry to hear and read how Hillary supporters were driven to be quiet, but a true civilized and democratic society doesn't stage loud and violent protests. We exercise our passion through the ballot box (or mail), through phone-banking, through talking with our groups, through correcting the record where we could while withstanding the unjust angry. But we did it!

Some people are quieter about their politics, religion, whatever.

I have many friends online who supported Bernie. Whenever any of them made a post about not knowing anyone who supported Hillary I would politely speak up.

Inevitably many would follow, liking my post or voicing their own support. When one person steps out it makes everyone more comfortable speaking out.

Best of all, today many of those same people were hashtagging never trump and I'm with her.

Not listening to our voices, and moving quickly and relentlessly to squash what we thought and had to say! We had to go underground and then we surprised everyone because we existed even though had to be quiet and silent about it!

It explains so much of what's been going on, and mirrors how society treats women in general, especially older women. The only difference now is that we do have one ultimate way of being counted - through our votes.

It makes me sad (and angry) to consider that before we had the right to vote, we were effectively completely invisible and uncounted.

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I experienced it in real life from somebody who supports Bernie.

Some people need to do some soul searching.

Who had no business even mentioning anything about politics. He got reported by several people -- not me -- and "apologized" to everyone via email.

Issues of entitlement....

"I'm Bernie all the way (note: this was AFTER our primary, where HRC won in a landslide). No way I'm voting for either a woman who I can't trust or Trump."

Women in California so much.. the ones behind the scenes quietly GOTV and Voter Outreach..

Everyone who voted for Hillary across the nation.. her largest voting block is actually African American Women.. and now Latinos in California!

She won Arizona, Nevada, New Mexico, & California... see a pattern here?

So encouraging!

I like that pattern...

was when I let my friends know that I was switching from Bernie to Hillary and right away that's when all the personal attacks against me on Facebook started happening. That's when people started telling me to "do my research." that I had no right to disrespect Bernie like that. That I was wrong for putting my support behind Hillary. its hard not to take this stuff personally.

But the biggest shock was when a Bernie supporter on facebook threatened me with physical violence. They threatened to shoot out my right eye thus blinding me completely. Hell that scared the crap out of me guys. The next election cycle when we go through this again hopefully in 2024 I plan to keep my mouth shut about who I will be supporting.

Yet we persevered! So proud of all of us!

Am sad to hear what you went through! Know that many were with you!!

That's infuriating. It's also puzzling to me that someone would think that physical threats are an effective way of getting someone to change their views - it may publicly silence someone, but it won't change their mind when they cast a vote anonymously.

Incidentally, I think that's why they need to stop doing caucuses - there's nothing democratic about being bullied into voting for someone.

if they end up making primaries open to everyone but then they keep the caucuses? I really, really hope that's not on the agenda.

believe that will happen. I certainly hope not.

He said he has had to come out 3x. As a gay man, an atheist, and a Hillary Clinton supporter. Said he was attacked all 3x.

It would be a lot different if I were still living in Hoboken or Brooklyn. I doubt if I would feel comfortable discussing Hillary in public. I really don't need to be attacked. I actually feel safe around Trump supporters. They seem much confrontational and angry.

in my social group. These are longtime friends who shocked me with phrases like 'that woman' or 'Cheney in a skirt' to refer to Clinton. This, amongst many other things, was a red flag to keep away from Sanders.

Because speaking on the Internet while female is a crime, I decided to keep quiet about supporting Hillary until after primaries, and let my vote do the talking. Apparently on Tuesday, it did!

this comment from the reddit by JGRN1507

It's not just California

I didn't put a Hillary sticker on my car.
I did put out a sign about 3 days before the Primary (Ohio)
I don't think I will put a sticker on my car for the general either. The Trump supporters are just too deranged.

People feel entitled to trespass women's boundaries and Hillary's so any supporter of her, male or female, is subjected to that abuse by extension. Even in a state which is voting for Hillary, most here do not advertise it for fear of vandalism by the Trump and Sander's supporters. That is the reason there are so few signs and bumper stickers, etc.

I was at a non political meeting where everyone attending happened to be a Democrat. The Primary came up and one person, with fist raised boldly shouted, "Go Bernie! Never Hillary!" and was met with polite silence, shuffling papers and averted eyes. There were some smiles but the response spoke volumes: everyone in the room was for Hillary but they were not going get into it with an overbearing supporter who assumed everyone hates Hillary and that it was ok to do so. The support for Hillary is very deep and very wide just as the election results are showing. Women and minorities have to protect their voting franchise. There is power in the vote!

And I'm a guy. Imagine how the women feel?

Women get called stupid and men who agree with them are 'traitors to their gender' or something; not 'real men'.

lolpeerpressurevoting

...to hide out. This is totally sad.

We are winning -- but the Sanders Cult has taken a lot of the joy out of it. And they're proud of it.

Fortunately, Sanders himself is a long-time politician who is right now dickering with other politicians over what he can get on behalf of the movement he started. If his more fevered followers can grow up a bit and see this as reality and not a betrayal (I swear some of them think he should "bern" himself on the Capitol steps shouting "Nevah surrendah!&quot we might be able to make some progress -- even Progressive progress.

I never let any strangers know my politics unless they ask. Even in a state like CA that has many Clinton and Obama fans, there are also plenty of haters, and you never know who is a hater. I'm not going to risk getting harassed by some nut at school or on the street because of a shirt or bumper sticker.

I put nothing on my car but running stickers.

... phenomenon, of often going for Bernie? It can be a very confrontational environment. Maybe Hillary supporters just didn't want to get involved in that?