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Walk away

(9,494 posts)
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 05:55 PM Jun 2016

Donald Trump will be Buried by an Electora Avalanche even without the Bernie or Bust Voters!

Over the last two decades, American presidential elections have all been relatively close. But with Donald Trump at the helm, the Republican Party faces the prospect of a historic landslide closer to the creamings received by Barry Goldwater in 1964 (who lost by 23.6 points), George McGovern in 1972 (24.2 percentage points), and Walter Mondale in 1984 (19.4 percentage points). At this point, the only real question appears to be how huge (or beautiful—pick your Trumpian adjective) the margin will be.

To lose by more than 10 percent in 2016, as Trump could easily do, would be a remarkable achievement of sorts, given how evenly split Americans have been in recent years and how reluctant they are to leave their preferred parties. The last election even approaching a landslide was in 1996, when Bill Clinton defeated Bob Dole by an eight-point margin. Since then, elections have been tight. Even in 2008, when the Democrats should by all rights have won massively—with Republicans dragged down by an unpopular war and the start of the biggest economic recession since 1929, and with John McCain facing the most talented politician of the last generation—Barack Obama’s victory was only by a 7-percent margin, which narrowed to four in 2012.


Trump seems destined to break this pattern—and if his campaign continues on its current trajectory, it’s not inconceivable that he could tally less that 40 percent of the vote, which no candidate has managed since George H.W Bush in 1992, 24 years ago, in a three-person race. This is only partially because Trump’s polling numbers have taken a dive recently; a recent Bloomberg poll shows Clinton enjoying a double-digit lead over Trump, getting 49 percent to his 37 percent. But the Bloomberg poll is only a snapshot of a moment, and poll numbers are likely to fluctuate as the race proceeds. The real reason to think Trump will tank in an historical way on election day has to do with the essential nature of the unorthodox campaign Trump is running, as against Clinton’s more traditional effort.


much more good news....

https://newrepublic.com/article/134366/donald-trump-will-buried-electoral-avalanche
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Walk away

(9,494 posts)
5. I too am in the "Bigly" camp. "Big League" is too sane sounding for Donald!
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 06:20 PM
Jun 2016

I think of him as a Republican who's code is broken.

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
2. I've thought so for a while now. Hillary will get the women, AA, Latino, other PoC, LBGT, Muslim
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 06:02 PM
Jun 2016

and a fair share of Millennial and independents.

I also think she will get many, many Republican women. People like Ana Navarro have practically said so.

kimbutgar

(23,271 posts)
7. We can only hope this is true.
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 06:49 PM
Jun 2016

I live in liberal SF and have yet to meet a con man supporter. My husband who works for a major airline works with some right wingers who support him and they have daily 1 hour commutes each way and have been steadily poisoned by savage, limp, hannity and levin. The ones who have the longest commutes are extreme right winger the shorter commuters are more liberal. Plus these right wing +$35 dollar an hour union workers have been brainwashed to think unions are bad even though they make good money.

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
8. In my experience, stupid people are very loud.
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 06:59 PM
Jun 2016

I rarely take a lot of noise as evidence of a lot of support.

kimbutgar

(23,271 posts)
9. My husband has a right wing nephew who lives in Arizona and probably a drumpf supporter
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 07:08 PM
Jun 2016

You are right he is loud, thinks he knows it all and is pretty stupid and a loser. 33 years, lives with his Mother, brought a $35,000 truck and he has a long work commute everyday to his $13 dollar an hour job. He will be paying off that truck for 6 years and then after that he says he's saving for a home. I had to walk away from him when he told me this because I wanted to laugh in his face.

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
12. I have a few client/friends who are republicans. Most are rich people who don't like taxes so Trump
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 08:13 PM
Jun 2016

is not their style. My state is always Blue in federal elections so I usually just ignore their political BS. But lately, whenever they say anything even slightly political, I point at them laugh and say "Trump" in a really sarcastic voice. At least the have the decency to look embarrassed.

TwilightZone

(28,833 posts)
10. After Bush, especially in 2004, I'm not counting on the voting public to do the right thing just yet
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 07:17 PM
Jun 2016

It has all the signs of a major blowout, but goofy stuff happens. If not for the perfect storm and a tiny bump in the polls at the last minute (among other issues, like Ohio), Bush loses in 2004.

That being said, you can't lose nearly every demographic group and win a national election. Electorally, this has the hallmarks of a beatdown. If so, the Senate and some significant migration in the House would be helpful.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
11. Let's not be complacent
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 07:28 PM
Jun 2016

By all that is sane and rational, Trump should not get a single vote. However, let's think back. Richard Nixon, Ronald Reagan, George W. Bush...NONE of those should have been allowed near the White House. Yet, they all served two terms, even when it was clear their first terms were disasters. Yes, Trump is worse even than Bush, but people sometimes vote for irrational reasons.

Bottom line: we need to work. GOTV is the key to victory.

Freddie

(9,692 posts)
14. They couldn't have picked a better candidate
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 11:10 AM
Jun 2016

To run against the first woman running for POTUS. Just for misogyny alone, the ads write themselves.

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
15. Donald has written 3 elections worth of ads for Democrats aimed at every demographic except...
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 11:49 AM
Jun 2016

White male bigots!

Cha

(305,406 posts)
16. YES.. we don't need them.. just like BS wasn't the strongest candidate against DT..
Mon Jun 20, 2016, 03:23 AM
Jun 2016

We don't even need those sour grapes.

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