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Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 06:32 AM Jul 2016

Can someone direct me to a list of Jeffrey Sachs' foreign policy credentials?

Unless I'm mistaken, he's an economist--hardly an expert in international relations.

But, to hear him spouting off on MSNBC this morning, anyone could have been confused.

His self-righteous critique of the "catastrophic" foreign policy of this administration, and his smug calling-out of both Pres. Obama and Sec. Clinton about their Mid-East policy, was loathsome and obnoxious.

His "concern trolling" was SO obvious--especially when he pointedly reminded everyone that he's never been with "her", but with the "other".



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Can someone direct me to a list of Jeffrey Sachs' foreign policy credentials? (Original Post) Surya Gayatri Jul 2016 OP
Found Jeffrey Sachs Wiki Page Her Sister Jul 2016 #1
Interest and expertise in post-communist economies...okay, I'll buy that. Surya Gayatri Jul 2016 #4
Yes the guy exudes a lot of self-importance! Her Sister Jul 2016 #5
All you really need to know about him BlueMTexpat Jul 2016 #2
And yet, he was waxing wise about military deployment and strategy, both the US' and Russia's. Surya Gayatri Jul 2016 #3
Who do you think is impressed with this guy? JS? Her Sister Jul 2016 #6
It doesn't. BlueMTexpat Jul 2016 #14
"...arrogant and sure that HE is always right about absolutely everything." Surya Gayatri Jul 2016 #17
What can I say, Surya? BlueMTexpat Jul 2016 #18
Does his voice still get all quivering as he bashes Hillary LuvLoogie Jul 2016 #7
He WAS pretty giddy this morning when bashing Obama and Clinton. When he goes off like that, Surya Gayatri Jul 2016 #8
America has a long history of supporting dictators and tyrants. yallerdawg Jul 2016 #9
"...supporting "self-determination" is an alternative path in foreign policy for us." Surya Gayatri Jul 2016 #10
As I recall... yallerdawg Jul 2016 #12
This minor factoid apparently escaped the notice of Dr. Sachs: Surya Gayatri Jul 2016 #13
OMG! yallerdawg Jul 2016 #15
She was in high-dudgeon--spewing her talking points and displaying wide-eyed, fake "concern". Surya Gayatri Jul 2016 #16
He occasionally works at the Vatican? He was Sanders' "In" to that Vatican conference KittyWampus Jul 2016 #11
 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
4. Interest and expertise in post-communist economies...okay, I'll buy that.
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 07:13 AM
Jul 2016

From there, however, to being a self-styled expert on military/strategic choices...

Well, excuse me if I find that to be quite a stretch.

 

Her Sister

(6,444 posts)
5. Yes the guy exudes a lot of self-importance!
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 07:15 AM
Jul 2016

Probably thought his Vatican trip idea was such a clever idea! Glad it went Splat!!

BlueMTexpat

(15,496 posts)
2. All you really need to know about him
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 06:56 AM
Jul 2016

is that he was the political "mastermind" behind Bernie's trip to the Vatican!

That said, he has been an economic adviser to several foreign governments and to the UN and related organizations, particularly wrt sustainable development and very involved with the UN's Millennium Development Goals (MDGs).

His actual experience, however, has been as an academic. I do not believe that he has ever been "on the ground" in any meaningful capacity. He is, however, a proponent of the "Big Idea," a very idealistic view of how poverty can be overcome with few of the practical aspects that must be involved.

Here is an article from someone who has actually been "on the ground" that makes some good points: https://newrepublic.com/article/120178/problem-international-development-and-plan-fix-it

Mainly this:

What I want to talk shit on is the paradigm of the Big Idea—that once we identify the correct one, we can simply unfurl it on the entire developing world like a picnic blanket.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
3. And yet, he was waxing wise about military deployment and strategy, both the US' and Russia's.
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 07:10 AM
Jul 2016

What a self-satisfied, smug little twit.

Sounds like this would be just his modus operandi:
"...once we identify the correct (Big Idea), we can simply unfurl it on the entire developing world like a picnic blanket."

From what I'm reading, he's given ecomomic advice to foreign governments.

Quite how that qualifies him to critique the administration's military and strategic choices, in such a complex arena as the Mid-East, escapes me totally.

BlueMTexpat

(15,496 posts)
14. It doesn't.
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 09:00 AM
Jul 2016

And he is a self-satisfied, mug little twit!

Some heart and compassion, some of the right ideas, but absolutely arrogant and sure that HE is always right about absolutely everything.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
17. "...arrogant and sure that HE is always right about absolutely everything."
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 09:59 AM
Jul 2016

Gee, wonder why he's politically drawn to "he who must not be named"--birds of a feather and all that.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
8. He WAS pretty giddy this morning when bashing Obama and Clinton. When he goes off like that,
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 07:29 AM
Jul 2016

he loses any credibility he might have in other spheres, IMO.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
9. America has a long history of supporting dictators and tyrants.
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 07:31 AM
Jul 2016

As ugly and uncontrollable as it may be, supporting "self-determination" is an alternative path in foreign policy for us.

Isolation and protectionism is one extreme. Endless military intervention is another extreme.

We'll see where Syria and Libya end up. That includes normal human beings leaving failed states and uninhabitable deserts - if they can!

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
10. "...supporting "self-determination" is an alternative path in foreign policy for us."
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 07:42 AM
Jul 2016

To hear Sach's self-important broadside, you'd think that Obama willfully misjudged the necessity to take Assad out militarily when that "red line" was crossed.

So now, he's an "interventionist" because Obama wasn't.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
12. As I recall...
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 08:13 AM
Jul 2016

Congress and the American people rejected military action against Assad for using chemical weapons on Syrians.

But the "threat" alone ultimately disarmed the Assad regime of chemical weapons usage. In fact, it began the voluntary destruction of at least most of it. And unrelenting vigilance for any more usage.

Obama got what he wanted through diplomacy triggered by the threat of military intervention against a psychotic despot.

And we have "politicians" arguing Assad is acceptable as the leader of Syria. Disgusting.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
13. This minor factoid apparently escaped the notice of Dr. Sachs:
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 08:35 AM
Jul 2016
Obama got what he wanted through diplomacy triggered by the threat of military intervention against a psychotic despot.


But, of course, this runs counter to the prevailing RW narrative being purveyed, among others, by Mika the Fox News wannabee on MSNBC.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
15. OMG!
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 09:23 AM
Jul 2016

This morning, 30 seconds into Mika I had to change the channel in disgust, oozing her contempt for Hillary. No pretense of journalistic neutrality there!

And Joe had the morning off.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
16. She was in high-dudgeon--spewing her talking points and displaying wide-eyed, fake "concern".
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 09:56 AM
Jul 2016

What a shameful display of "journalistic" ethics.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
11. He occasionally works at the Vatican? He was Sanders' "In" to that Vatican conference
Tue Jul 5, 2016, 07:54 AM
Jul 2016

which was puffed up into the fiction of Sanders being invited to speak and meet with the Pope.

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