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Related: About this forumAl Giordano: 1. Let me share some knowledge I have about Tim Kaine,
Al Giordano @AlGiordano 45m45 minutes ago
2. Kaine supported Obama in the 2008 primaries vs Clinton. This pick makes a lie out the nonsense that she is somehow a vindictive leader!
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Al Giordano @AlGiordano 43m43 minutes ago
3. When in the fall of 2008 I reported from swing states, I landed at Dulles & began in Virginia, where then-Gov. Kaine asked to see me.
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Al Giordano @AlGiordano 41m41 minutes ago
4. Much to my chagrin, his Governor's Office then prohibited smoking. I started out by teasing him: "You lead a tobacco state, dammit!"
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Al Giordano @AlGiordano 40m40 minutes ago
5. I can testify that Kaine has a terrific sense of humor & his protestations that he's "boring" are just part of an ongoing comedy routine.
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Al Giordano @AlGiordano 39m39 minutes ago
6. Most interestingly, the reason Kaine wanted to meet me was not to get good press for himself, but to talk about data-driven politics.
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Al Giordano @AlGiordano 38m38 minutes ago
7. He said he had followed my 2008 primary projections state by state in real time & wanted some insight into my methodology.
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Al Giordano @AlGiordano 36m36 minutes ago
8. Kaine also mentioned that he had followed @NateSilver538's work when Nate was still using the psued of "Poblano." He's an early adopter.
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Al Giordano @AlGiordano 35m35 minutes ago
9. During that meeting I wanted to test if it were true that he is fluent in Spanish & shifted to that language. ¡Y sí se pudo muy bien!
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Al Giordano @AlGiordano 35m35 minutes ago
10. Kaine also displayed a keen interest in human rights, journalist safety & social movements in Latin America, very rare among US pols.
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Al Giordano @AlGiordano 29m29 minutes ago
11. Kaine had been mayor of Richmond at a time when the city council chose the mayor. A majority African-American city council elected him.
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Al Giordano @AlGiordano 28m28 minutes ago
12. Suffice to say, Tim Kaine understands that the first rule of governing by coalition is being a good listener. That's why he's popular.
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Al Giordano @AlGiordano 27m27 minutes ago
13. I shake my head when some claim Kaine isn't "progressive" enough. In most cases *those* are the folks who don't know work in coalition!
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Al Giordano @AlGiordano 25m25 minutes ago
14. We've seen candidates in both parties in 2016 notorious for having few friends among colleagues. Kaine is the opposite. People like him.
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Al Giordano @AlGiordano 24m24 minutes ago
15. I suspect people like & respect Kaine because he treats you the same when the cameras are off as he does in public. He's authentic.
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Al Giordano @AlGiordano 22m22 minutes ago
16. Those who complain about this pick by and large don't know him. Watch him win them over in the coming months. He will.
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Al Giordano @AlGiordano 19m19 minutes ago
17. We all had our favorites for this pick. I'm sure mine - Senator Warren - is as happy with the Kaine nomination as I am. Zero doubts!
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@AlGiordano can you help me understand the ways that Kaine is such a "centrist"? Like specific issues? I don't get this narrative
Al Giordano
@AlGiordano Al Giordano Retweeted Jesse Smith
He's not. He's a social justice progressive, the real kind, that knows civil and equal rights are a pillar of it.
https://twitter.com/AlGiordano/status/756658823138533376
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(6,444 posts)-A. Giordano
forjusticethunders
(1,151 posts)I was mostly like "Well Tim Kaine is *okay* but..." but I really like this writeup.
still_one
(96,531 posts)Cha
(305,406 posts)really excited about him being Hillary's choice.
He was just never on my radar.
spooky3
(36,204 posts)UtahLib
(3,180 posts)I hate when people jump to conclusions based on no more than internet rumors spread by people who may harbor dubious intent.
radical noodle
(8,581 posts)I have to wonder, after reading this, if part of the reason she picked him is to help bring people together. If he's liked by so many with a rep for being fair, he may be a person to help get things done.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Better than Pence so I do not want to discredit Kaine by comparing the two. I'll just say Kaine is a top notch pick.
Her Sister
(6,444 posts)Walk away
(9,494 posts)AG 2018!
fleabiscuit
(4,542 posts)Cha
(305,406 posts)Al Giordano
@AlGiordano Al Giordano Retweeted Jesse Smith
He's not. He's a social justice progressive, the real kind, that knows civil and equal rights are a pillar of it
Al Giordano @AlGiordano 28m28 minutes ago
12. Suffice to say, Tim Kaine understands that the first rule of governing by coalition is being a good listener. That's why he's popular.
Al Giordano @AlGiordano 22m22 minutes ago
16. Those who complain about this pick by and large don't know him. Watch him win them over in the coming months. He will.
That's what I've been saying.. they don't know him. Just spouting off talking points.
Muchas Gracias, Her Sister!
BlueMTexpat
(15,496 posts)I have just one teensy complaint about this one.
Hillary has been well-liked by colleagues on BOTH sides of the aisle and certainly well-liked among her Dem colleagues, as evidenced by her overwhelming support among Dem SDs. I am surprised to see Giordano make such a claim. OK, he didn't specifically name Hillary - but who did he mean then? If he did mean her, he is wrong.
She may be notoriously unpopular among many who do NOT know her given the 25+ year assault on her integrity and the RW slurs that the M$M let stand. But among those who do know her and who have worked with her, she has NEVER been "notorious" for "having few friends among colleagues."
I am disappointed with the wording of that one.
Her Sister
(6,444 posts)I think he was talking about other other other candidates!
BTW: I'm with you! I know HRC plays well with others! Both a team player & a team leader!
DemonGoddess
(5,123 posts)When I found out that he did Catholic missionary work for Jesuits, that told me that he wants and works for social justice.
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(6,444 posts)NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)I have a lot of respect for Al, so this is good to see. I think Tim Kaine is a wonderful choice!
curiouso
(57 posts)Re I shake my head when some claim Kaine isn't "progressive" enough. In most cases *those* are the folks who don't know work in coalition!
No one is ever going to be progressive enough for the left-wing extremists who demand that candidates address every social ill as soon as they get into office. "Well, yeah, we got a health care bill enacted, but it took way to long to get it done - and he didn't address MY pet issue." There's no compromise with these people and no common sense in that wing of the Democratic Party. They talk like progressives but they act like Teabaggers. I suggest that the next progressive administration begin its tenure by announcing an agenda of issues it plans to tackle in the order it plans to tackle them - tell supporters that if it wants their pet issue addressed they'd damned well better do everything humanly possible to get items ahead of it on the agenda squared away. Then tell them that achieving goals requires more than just bitching and making demands from the sidelines. They've got to be involved - mobilize to flood the offices of those standing in the way with emails and phone calls. Vilify them. Explain to the opposition's constituents what action proposed by progressives will mean to them - direct benefits they will see and feel in their neighborhoods. Reduce issues to catch phrases and bumper stickers and repeat them over and over and never stray from message. Turn the right wing's tactics against them.