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Big speech tomorrow... (Original Post) YvonneCa Sep 2015 OP
I'll be watching his speech at whitehouse live underthematrix Sep 2015 #1
... YvonneCa Sep 2015 #3
H U G E and it will ENRAGE rightwingers who know nothing about the agreement randys1 Sep 2015 #2
GOP KKKochroach toddler tantrums underthematrix Sep 2015 #4
Wohoo!!!! mylye2222 Sep 2015 #5
Woohoo indeed! YvonneCa Sep 2015 #6
Here's the url to the full speech! MBS Sep 2015 #7
He was fantastic. He always excels... YvonneCa Sep 2015 #8
that's the most maddening (and damning) thing about the opponents MBS Sep 2015 #9
Maddening is exactly the right word... YvonneCa Sep 2015 #10
Yup. Great parrallel you just made, YvonneCa. mylye2222 Sep 2015 #11
Agree completely - a masterful speech that actually made some of the complicated issues clear karynnj Sep 2015 #12
Great post, karynnj. I love your... YvonneCa Sep 2015 #13

randys1

(16,286 posts)
2. H U G E and it will ENRAGE rightwingers who know nothing about the agreement
Tue Sep 1, 2015, 11:18 AM
Sep 2015

dont give one shit about Israel other than it is where Jeebus is gonna return, and all because that Black guy is gonna get credit for it

YvonneCa

(10,117 posts)
8. He was fantastic. He always excels...
Wed Sep 2, 2015, 12:51 PM
Sep 2015

... when he has a forum that allows full expression of his case. And full debate if he is doing Q and A. He made an excellent case for support of this deal.

Most detractors I have heard (in comment or on CSpan) have clearly NOT read or listened to a word Kerry has said.

Thanks for posting the link, MBS.

Edited to add...Lugar looked great!!

MBS

(9,688 posts)
9. that's the most maddening (and damning) thing about the opponents
Wed Sep 2, 2015, 01:00 PM
Sep 2015

That they decided to be opposed before the deal was reached, and before they read the deal. That they based their decision on ignorance.
Infuriating.
They are on the wrong side of history, and I hope that all the opponents have a REALLY hard time with their re-election campaigns.

YvonneCa

(10,117 posts)
10. Maddening is exactly the right word...
Wed Sep 2, 2015, 02:12 PM
Sep 2015

Last edited Wed Sep 2, 2015, 07:27 PM - Edit history (1)

...to describe the shallow, predictable objections to the deal. Opponents' decision to be against the Iran Deal IS clearly based on ignorance...sort of like the voting patterns in November, 2004. People are ignorant of how this benefits them.

Maybe that is why Kerry doesn't rest on selling this to the people and to Congress. Even though he has the votes to prevent overriding a presidential veto, he is pushing all the way to the finish line for ALL the possible votes he can win.

He's competing as if this is a divisive election.

karynnj

(59,936 posts)
12. Agree completely - a masterful speech that actually made some of the complicated issues clear
Wed Sep 2, 2015, 06:21 PM
Sep 2015

Lugar's introduction was wonderful and obviously sincere. His affection for the man he was on the SFRC with for 28 years was very obvious. It made me remember his kind words praising Kerry's first debate on foreign policy - which he said made the SFRC proud - when Kerry returned after Bush stole the vote in Ohio.

Seeing this, I wonder if there was a clear time when America could not see a diamond in the midst of so many cubic zirconium. This speech showed who he is - and he is a very exceptional person - as is the President who was brave enough to back this effort, fully knowing the political firestorm that would come if, against the odds, they succeeded.

Lugar did look great - and he still has that same genial smile. Kerry looked like he actually got some rest in the last few weeks -- and it looks like he no longer needs a cane (unless I missed something)

This could be an awesome month for Kerry - beyond Congress failing to stop the deal-- when the UN meets and when the Pope comes to DC.

YvonneCa

(10,117 posts)
13. Great post, karynnj. I love your...
Wed Sep 2, 2015, 09:59 PM
Sep 2015

...diamond/cubic zirconia reference. SO true!
This speech did truly show who he is and why he persists with diplomacy. Peace is better than war. I am so glad to hear him say that so loudly and clearly.

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