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Pab Sungenis

(9,612 posts)
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 08:10 PM Nov 2013

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This message was self-deleted by its author (Original Post) Pab Sungenis Nov 2013 OP
wtf, i would like to think its just one lone idiot rather than a whole group loli phabay Nov 2013 #1
What did I miss? Gore1FL Nov 2013 #2
I presume you got a post hidden.. Upton Nov 2013 #3
Yes, and only a rapist would object to a bullshit "PSA" that implies that all men are rapists. nt Bonobo Nov 2013 #4
NM.. Found it... Not surprising, in the least. opiate69 Nov 2013 #5
Results of your Jury Service LittleBlue Nov 2013 #6
No. They're not being alert stalked. Violet_Crumble Nov 2013 #7
and you know this for sure how. loli phabay Nov 2013 #8
I thought that would have been obvious... Violet_Crumble Nov 2013 #9
well clarified. loli phabay Nov 2013 #10
Thanks. I better clarify something else as well... Violet_Crumble Nov 2013 #11
personally i just avoid the feminism group as its not worth arguing loli phabay Nov 2013 #12
I mainly read all of them. I've had a few enjoyable exchanges in this group.... Violet_Crumble Nov 2013 #13
funnily i am pro gun but never go to the gungeon either loli phabay Nov 2013 #15
Yeah, know what you mean... Violet_Crumble Nov 2013 #16
Thank you for clarifying the situation. Warren DeMontague Nov 2013 #28
I didn't add a comment LittleBlue Nov 2013 #14
I should have known Pab Sungenis Nov 2013 #19
Huh? I've got no idea what yr going on about... Violet_Crumble Nov 2013 #20
Post removed Post removed Nov 2013 #21
Do I? I think you might want to recheck that. Violet_Crumble Nov 2013 #22
I am not mistaken. Pab Sungenis Nov 2013 #23
Yes, you are very mistaken... Violet_Crumble Nov 2013 #24
But they're vital to DU and the Democratic Party! name not needed Nov 2013 #17
I kinda think you're wrong on that claim ProudToBeBlueInRhody Nov 2013 #18
I think you misread her reply cyberswede Nov 2013 #25
Are you talking about the following Boston Bean post: ZombieHorde Nov 2013 #26
I tracked it back, and I think your interpretation of Boston Bean's post is incorrect. Warren DeMontague Nov 2013 #27
Agreed. Furthermore it wasn't even close to being the most egregious thing posted in the thread Major Nikon Nov 2013 #29
 

loli phabay

(5,580 posts)
1. wtf, i would like to think its just one lone idiot rather than a whole group
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 08:22 PM
Nov 2013

Gore1FL

(21,883 posts)
2. What did I miss?
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 08:43 PM
Nov 2013

And where did I miss it?

Upton

(9,709 posts)
3. I presume you got a post hidden..
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 08:48 PM
Nov 2013

Btw, did you know there is no such thing as misandry either?

Bonobo

(29,257 posts)
4. Yes, and only a rapist would object to a bullshit "PSA" that implies that all men are rapists. nt
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 09:13 PM
Nov 2013
 

opiate69

(10,129 posts)
5. NM.. Found it... Not surprising, in the least.
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 09:39 PM
Nov 2013
 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
6. Results of your Jury Service
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 09:46 PM
Nov 2013

This is the second or third jury I've been on for you in the last day or so. You're being alert-stalked or something.

At Thu Nov 7, 2013, 11:36 AM an alert was sent on the following post:

They can hide it all they want
http://www.democraticunderground.com/111411126

REASON FOR ALERT:

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS:

Not content with trying to stir up trouble in the LGBT group with a post that attacked another DUer http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1137&pid=32884 they're now spreading it to another group. This is disruptive and clearly intended to stir up trouble.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Thu Nov 7, 2013, 11:41 AM, and the Jury voted 1-5 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT and said: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: If true, the post should stand. If false, it should be refuted rather than alerted on.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: The alert is ridiculous. This was in the men's support group. If you don't like it, use the trash the thread function for christsakes.

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.





Violet_Crumble

(36,142 posts)
7. No. They're not being alert stalked.
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 09:53 PM
Nov 2013

Which juror were you? I'm guessing #6

 

loli phabay

(5,580 posts)
8. and you know this for sure how.
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 09:54 PM
Nov 2013

Violet_Crumble

(36,142 posts)
9. I thought that would have been obvious...
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 09:58 PM
Nov 2013

Because that's my alert, and I haven't alerted on anything for a long time...

 

loli phabay

(5,580 posts)
10. well clarified.
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 10:01 PM
Nov 2013

Violet_Crumble

(36,142 posts)
11. Thanks. I better clarify something else as well...
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 10:03 PM
Nov 2013

For the record, I've never alerted on anything in the men's group before that post, just in case Pabs or anyone else shifts from the 'alert stalk' theory to the 'hovering over this group alerting on everything that's posted' stream of reasoning

 

loli phabay

(5,580 posts)
12. personally i just avoid the feminism group as its not worth arguing
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 10:07 PM
Nov 2013

Though i get on with some at a more personal level, i figure the two groups should just stay seperate.

Violet_Crumble

(36,142 posts)
13. I mainly read all of them. I've had a few enjoyable exchanges in this group....
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 10:10 PM
Nov 2013

The hot celebs thread was awesome and I gave some valuable contributions. I'm not in the *OMG! The Men's Group is a boil on the backside of DU!* camp.

I think the only group or forum I deliberately avoid at DU is the gungeon. That place makes my head hurt!

 

loli phabay

(5,580 posts)
15. funnily i am pro gun but never go to the gungeon either
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 10:13 PM
Nov 2013

Banter is badly missing from du in a big way, its all about i am right and you are wrong, everything is absolutes.

Violet_Crumble

(36,142 posts)
16. Yeah, know what you mean...
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 10:16 PM
Nov 2013

The group showing up in my profile as my favourite group would vanish in a nanosecond if absolutism and win at all costs were suddenly removed

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
28. Thank you for clarifying the situation.
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 02:36 AM
Nov 2013


It's pretty clear to me the original read of BB's post was a misinterpretation.
 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
14. I didn't add a comment
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 10:12 PM
Nov 2013

So I don't know which

 

Pab Sungenis

(9,612 posts)
19. I should have known
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 11:12 PM
Nov 2013

as soon as "LGBT" was mentioned.

And for those same reasons I'm not surprised you're stalking me in here too.

Violet_Crumble

(36,142 posts)
20. Huh? I've got no idea what yr going on about...
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 11:14 PM
Nov 2013

I'm getting the idea that you think anyone who ever alerts on another DUers post is a stalker, but apart from that I'm totally lost.

Response to Violet_Crumble (Reply #20)

Violet_Crumble

(36,142 posts)
22. Do I? I think you might want to recheck that.
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 11:25 PM
Nov 2013

I suspect you might be mistaking me for someone else. The same way as when you did yr 'I should have known!' moment. I don't think I've ever exchanged posts with you before, so it's all just a bit strange to be labelled a stalker and a homophobe all of a sudden...

 

Pab Sungenis

(9,612 posts)
23. I am not mistaken.
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 11:45 PM
Nov 2013

Anything more I say will give you another excuse to alert for a "call-out." Suffice it to say your history is known to me.

Violet_Crumble

(36,142 posts)
24. Yes, you are very mistaken...
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 11:48 PM
Nov 2013

Maybe you'd like to link to this 'history'? Because I've never had a problem with that group and they've never had a problem with me. Which makes heaps of sense seeing I see eye to eye on LGBT rights. Or are you going to invent a whole new history where I've posted things that are homophobic or something? Feel free to share...

name not needed

(11,663 posts)
17. But they're vital to DU and the Democratic Party!
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 10:45 PM
Nov 2013

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
18. I kinda think you're wrong on that claim
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 10:55 PM
Nov 2013

That poster is simply engaging in their usual dance around the mulberry bush.

Please jurors, I'm not slamming that person, but saying I don't believe they don't think men can be DV victims.

cyberswede

(26,117 posts)
25. I think you misread her reply
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 01:09 AM
Nov 2013

Archae:

Yet men who are abused by women are pretty much ignored. Or ridiculed


boston bean:
They are? By who?

ZombieHorde

(29,047 posts)
26. Are you talking about the following Boston Bean post:
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 01:20 AM
Nov 2013
They are? By who?


http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023985039#post2

If so, BB was asking about: "Yet men who are abused by women are pretty much ignored. Or ridiculed." Which was a statement in the OP of that thread.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
27. I tracked it back, and I think your interpretation of Boston Bean's post is incorrect.
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 02:34 AM
Nov 2013

Egregious shit does get said on DU, but actually one of my biggest pet peeves- because it happens to me with disturbing regularity- is having my words twisted or misrepresented, if not having stuff I flat-out never said, put into my mouth deliberately by people who proceed to have an argument with "me" based upon the stuff they just made up.

I don't think you're doing that here, but I do think you're misreading Boston Bean's original post. I do not believe she was saying that men can't be victims of domestic abuse. I think her post was in response to a later line in your post.

Now, all sorts of crap is alleged on DU and never backed up. People on DU are apparently saying all kinds of horrible, afwul, simply nasty egregious *********-ing stuff. Encouraging cannibalism, bathing in goats' blood, listening to Amy Grant albums backwards, and all sorts of nefarious evil hoodoo voodoo, I know because I hear about it all the time, although of course no one ever actually backs up those statements.



Frankly, I'm sick of the shit-flinging on DU. I disagree with Boston Bean all the time, but I'm not going to misrepresent something she said. I think you're reading it wrong.

Major Nikon

(36,900 posts)
29. Agreed. Furthermore it wasn't even close to being the most egregious thing posted in the thread
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 11:58 AM
Nov 2013

At least two posters claimed statistics on female-male domestic violence was "MRA Group BS" even when they were published by the CDC.

Another claimed, "it is a small percentage of women who are the aggressors, probably a tiny percentage."

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