Yeah, that's it.

was exposed as a fraud.

"Oh yeah, rich white boys have it so rough. I should totally feel bad for them being almost falsely sent to jail for decades. Boo hoo!"

Either you oppose unwarranted violence or you don't. You can't make gendered exceptions.

You need to ask yourself: do you want to live in a world with less violence period. Or less violence against women only?

Actually it makes perfect sense if you think about it.

The law doesn't technically say it's ok to hit a man but not a woman but if you look at sentencings for DV broken down by gender it may as well. Men are far less likely to report it.

Additionally there is a very strong "real men don't hit women" mentality in our society. There is no comparable "real women don't hit men" stigma. Turn on any sitcom and it's common to see wives slapping their husbands. How often do you see it in reverse? Rarely, and pretty much just on WE or Oxygen (shortly before the man is murdered).

There is a major social stigma against A) men hitting women and B) men complaining about being hit by women.

Given that does it seem all that outlandish that female on male violence exists?

It's not an equivalent situation.

But no one should hit anyone, it's not okay, under any circumstances.

you could use a weapon or they could be in some way prevented from defending themselves.

Men are more often victims, but suffer less injury.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1854883/?tool=pubmed

In fact if we accept the premise that early intervention is beneficial, the best intervention would be to stop the women who do the battering in 70% of nonreciprocal IPV before it escalates into reciprocal violence and she gets hurt.

Doesn't compute.

but I didn't come in to being in april this year.

So it is possible that I have knowledge of events prior to DU.

But that is a stupid-ass reply. Seriously, did you write for a mid-80's sitcom or something?

The reason why male initiated domestic violence is in the public spotlight more is because women are more likely to be injured and because men are far less likely to speak about it or seek help.

Both of those I know who were abused by their wives endured violence for years.

when men are beaten it's mostly treated as a joke by law enforcement, the community, and society at large.

Virtually no resources are dedicated towards helping male victims (your town likely has a women's shelter, no such thing exists for male victims of DV).

So it's not surprising men are reluctant to do anything about it.

In most states if you hit someone you live with, you go to jail regardless of whether you are male or female.

I'm not so sure there should be an equivelence as far as male on female DV is concerned. Men aren't nearly as likely to be seriously injured or killed as a result of DV so I don't see as much need for a men's shelter vs a women's shelter.

It's hard to say with this since the social stigma is so great.

Men are less inclined to seek help to begin with (either from the law or health professionals) for any problem.

When you add in the requirement that they publicly announce that they "got beaten up by a girl" I'm guessing that initial hesitation becomes outright horror.

I've seen various estimates but they all seem to say about two or three women are killed by their intimate partners for every man killed by an intimate partner. Obviously that's still skewed towards women. But we should ask: if women were only being murdered by their spouses at half the rate they are now would it be acceptable and warrant the removal of all DV services? Obviously not. So . . .

the issue.

I do think that, over the years, Law Enforcement and society in general has become more fluid in understanding of relationships and partner dynamics, both in healthy and not healthy relationships. Domestic Violence in lesbian relationships, for one- which was not acknowledged for a long time, but is now recognized as a potential issue in the community...

again, my bottom line is violence is never acceptable.

That is true for the violence leading up to the injury-causing incident as well.

The presentation, such as it would have been, would have taken place 6 years ago.

30% for women, 26% among men.

Their source was apparently an interview so it wouldn't surprise me if the men's self reporting was lower, given the stigma.

I'm not going to argue that men are necessarily being abused more (that's just the title of the article I happened across).

My point was more that it is far more prevalent than our society likes to admit.

http://www.cdc.gov/ViolencePrevention/pdf/NISVS_Report2010-a.pdf

The CDC says this:

....however, I will say this. Most men I know including myself have been raised to believe you never, EVER under any circumstances, hit a woman. Nobody even tosses in the caveat "except if your life is threatened"....this is a success of the majority's "man code" that will of course never get mentioned in radfem circles (or they'll probably bizarrely condemn it, saying it's sexist not to hit a woman because she's a woman). This leads to men taking abuse far more than anyone of either sex should. As far as the actual numbers....who knows, but many men DO stay silent because they are "supposed" to.

men are in general much larger and stronger than women (as always there are exceptions).

I wish there were a similar stigma that ran in reverse though given the "boys don't hit girls" rule. The reason being that by preventing even violence in self-defense men are actually at a disadvantage to women in this regard as they are prohibited from fighting back.

Fundamentally targeting a man because you know he is unlikely to fight back is no different than beating up someone in a wheelchair because you know they can't do anything about it. Even children see the injustice in that.

Anyone who would use their position of asymmetrical power (either from physical strength or the knowledge that the other person is prevented from retaliating or some other factor) is the worst kind of bully and should be publicly shunned in addition to any legal troubles they occur. Male or female shouldn't matter.

The social conditioning should be tweaked. Boys don't hit girls hits on an element of it. But really it ought to be "don't fight anyone who can't realistically fight back".

/"don't fight at all" is probably even better. But I recognize that will never catch on.