No mention of a first amendment right of free association? If Augusta is forced open then privacy and the right to 'free association' means nothing. I didn't vote because I did not see that men still do have a constitutional RIGHT to male only spaces. I think woman have a right to woman only spaces to.

Men are a 2:3 minority on college campuses, and anything that can be done to make them more successful, and to make college more attainable is a good idea.

So I see two issues: the double standard, and the practical effect. One practical effect of the profusion of gender-specific supports for women in college is to help extend women's dominance in education.

The saunas in Europe, by in large, are co-ed.
that is people of BOTH genders, naked and sweating in oppressive heat.
big whoop
everyone looks, everyone enjoys each others company (NOT sexually geesh) and they're all adults about it.

The problem, of many, here in america is we are too focused on titillation.
Europeans, mostly, are over that. they grew up.
we really need to follow.

I don't really understand.

For example, women get paid less for the same work.

Women are much more likely to be raped than men outside of prison.

Women's health care is often being undermined, in addition to usual health-care woes people of all genders face in this country.

Male politicians can cry all day, and their tears won't be used against them in any real political way (comedians will tease). Female politicians probably would not enjoy the same freedom to express their feelings.

But I don't like the concept of any one-gender-only spaces, not female ones either.

But in real life, I understand why sometimes people want them.

(Butts out of the man conversation now.)

I fully support the right of men to get together for hot, gay orgies without the presence of women.

The Freemasons seem pretty harmless --and boring-- to me. I don't think forcing them to allow women would really help to alleviate women's disadvantages in our society.

One problem with male-only clubs, such as a hypothetical golf course, is they can be used to have business meetings that exclude women. This would obviously slant business practices against women. I don't know how much this happens though, or what the solution should be to remedy the inequality it would create.

Both those who recommended this thread, and voted for the second choice have now been sent back to the lands of ghosts and wind.