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Major Nikon

(36,900 posts)
Wed Aug 14, 2013, 06:27 AM Aug 2013

I blame the patriarchy

Study: Men Want Women to Chip In on Dates, but Are Afraid to Ask
Younger adults are more willing to share dating expenses


When women debrief each other about their recent dates, one of the first questions that come up is, “Did he pay?” Well, most men are still paying for dates, but wish women would pay sometimes too, according to a paper presented over the weekend at the American Sociological Association’s annual meeting in New York City.


The ritual of men taking out women dates back to the time when men earned more because most jobs were not accessible to women. By treating women, men were also showing their ability to provide for them in the future. But now that the percentage of men and women in the paid labor force is about equal — and 28% of women are making more money than men in households where both partners work — the study’s authors wanted to know if that shift in gender roles has contributed to women’s expectations about who pays the tab.

The study, which surveyed 17,607 unmarried, heterosexual men and women using a questionnaire posted on NBCNews.com, found:

•84% of men and 58% of women said that men paid for most dating expenses.
•39% of women hoped men would not ask them to contribute.
•44% of women were annoyed when men “expected” women to pay.
•44% of men said they would stop seeing women who never pay for dates.
•64% of men believed women should pick up from time to time, though 76% said they felt “guilty” saying so.
• 4 in 10 men and women said that dating expenses were usually shared within the first month, and nearly three-fourths (74%) of men and 83% of women said they’re shared by the sixth-month mark.


http://newsfeed.time.com/2013/08/14/study-men-want-women-to-chip-in-on-dates-but-are-afraid-to-ask/


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I blame the patriarchy (Original Post) Major Nikon Aug 2013 OP
Like that gap between 84% and 58%... malthaussen Aug 2013 #1
I've always been about being equal libodem Aug 2013 #2
Whoever asks for the first date should pay ProudToBeBlueInRhody Aug 2013 #3
It's not my thing, so let it go. Warren DeMontague Aug 2013 #4
I am gay...never been an issue. Behind the Aegis Aug 2013 #5
So how'd you guys work it out? Warren DeMontague Aug 2013 #6
Know where the bodies are buried too! >:) Behind the Aegis Aug 2013 #7
That's kind of what I figured. Warren DeMontague Aug 2013 #8

libodem

(19,288 posts)
2. I've always been about being equal
Wed Aug 14, 2013, 11:10 AM
Aug 2013

But attraction is more like a magnetic field. For me it is much more romantic when the man pays. At least at first.

I like to be the feminine one in the relationship after all these years of ponying up my half. It's good to be the girl.
And to have the male be feeling like a man. That's when the sparks fly. And that's the good part. It still works the same way after all these centuries. We can't rewrite biology.

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
3. Whoever asks for the first date should pay
Wed Aug 14, 2013, 12:28 PM
Aug 2013

After that, an equitable "You got this one, I'll get the next" should go on. Although I have a tendency to like to spoil my lady.

I'd be very interested to see how this breaks down across education and income lines. I've found a number of women in menial jobs and with no room for growth openly talk about men as being little more than a cash machine to eventually shower them with gifts like cars and nice clothes as the relationship goes along. I also know some guys who are clearly coasting on the backs of their girlfriends with good jobs.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
6. So how'd you guys work it out?
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 12:49 AM
Aug 2013

Christ, there's a whole obstacle course of mental rigamarole around dating I'm just so glad to have behind me.

Not that marriage doesn't have its own rigamarole, but once you're into the 2nd or 3rd decade of it at least you know where all the tires are buried.

Behind the Aegis

(54,852 posts)
7. Know where the bodies are buried too! >:)
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 12:52 AM
Aug 2013

Who ever asked, paid. I am glad I am not having to date either. What a pain!

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
8. That's kind of what I figured.
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 12:58 AM
Aug 2013

First date with my wife didn't go so great. Fortunately things got better quickly.

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