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US Inflation Report to Keep Fed Leaning Toward More Rate Hikes
Core inflation may move sideways, Bloomberg Economics says
Fed will probably keep wait-and-see attitude toward hikes
By Matthew Boesler
November 14, 2023 at 12:00 AM EST
A monthly US government report on consumer prices due Tuesday is set to show slower progress toward the Federal Reserves 2% inflation target, keeping the central bank biased toward more tightening, according to Bloomberg Economics.
The figures are set to show the consumer price index excluding food and energy rose 0.3% for a second straight month in October, leaving the year-over-year rate unchanged at 4.1%, Bloomberg economists Anna Wong and Stuart Paul said Monday in a preview of the report.
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Fiendish Thingy
(18,666 posts)Instead of the expected 0.3% and 4.1% annual, the inflation numbers released today were 0.0% and 3.2% annual.
Id say the odds just increased for the Fed to pause hikes.
peppertree
(22,850 posts)And he knows he has more power than any single other individual - including Trump himself - to bring that about.
Fiendish Thingy
(18,666 posts)I have seen no evidence that Powell wants Trump to be re-elected.
When congress refuses to act (by raising taxes or legislating against corporate profiteering and price gouging), interest hikes are the only remaining tool against inflation. If Powell hadnt hiked rates over the past 18 months, wed be looking at 12-15% inflation, which would almost certainly guarantee Trumps re-election.
texasfiddler
(2,189 posts)I generally like Bloomberg, but their prognostications have been off the mark. I wish they would just wait until the CPI report is released.
peppertree
(22,850 posts)Powell knows he has more power than any single other individual - including Trump himself - to bring that about.
Fiendish Thingy
(18,666 posts)progree
(11,463 posts)Excluding volatile food and energy prices, core CPI increased 0.2% and 4%, against the forecast of 0.3% and 4.1%. ((so they overestimated by 0.1 percentage points on both measures -Progree))
Oddly enough, Bloomberg forecast the same 0.3% and 4.1% for CORE CPI as the Dow Jones economists, thus also missing on both measures by 0.1 percentage points on the high side. https://archive.li/l8CZj
I'm skeptical about the huge miss on regular CPI that one person is claiming in a linkless assertion. Edited to add: I can't find Bloomberg's forecast for regular CPI anywhere, except it's likely in a report that only Bloomberg Terminal clients have access to, End Edit
progree
(11,463 posts)though nowadays they look at things like "supercore service inflation" and core ex shelter and who knows what other series.
First the regular headline CPI number, and the regular month-by-month increases (rolling 3 months stuff comes later) :
After a frightening late summer jump, a nice downward trend to 0% in October (actually 0.04% which annualizes to 0.54%)
Now the CORE CPI number that the Fed is more interested in (though actually its the CORE PCE inflation gauge that historically has been their #1 gauge of underlying inflation trend to project FUTURE inflation)
After a bump-up in late summer, a nice move downward in October back to the June-July numbers.
CPI Rolling 3 month average thru October 2023:
For better accuracy, I calculate the rolling 3 months average using the actual index numbers, not the one digit monthly change numbers
A rolling 3 month helps smooth out month-to-month volatility, and since 3 months is an average of 3 data points, it is less likely to be dismissed as a "one off" like a single month's increase could be.
The big August & September jump hurt the 3 month average. As August and September fall out of the 3 month average in the coming one and two months, there should be a dramatic improvement.
CORE CPI Rolling 3 month average thru October 2023:
It has finally come down to about the 3% range. As August and September fall out of the 3 month average in the coming months, this may well improve considerably.
The next Fed rate-setting meeting is December 12-13.
BLS CPI press release: https://www.bls.gov/news.release/cpi.nr0.htm
Various series:
CPI: https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/CUSR0000SA0&output_view=pct_1mth
CORE CPI: http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/CUSR0000SA0L1E&output_view=pct_1mth
For all BLS timeseries data, one can see the index values and other periods like rolling 3 month, rolling 6 month, rolling 12 months by clicking "More Formatting Options" on the upper right and then on the page that shows up, check the various checkboxes
REAL AVERAGE HOURLY EARNINGS of production and non-supervisory workers https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/CES0500000032 ,
. . . private workers: https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/CES0500000013
CPI excluding shelter - https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/CUUR0000SA0L2
. . . FRED: https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/CUUR0000SA0L2
. . . Table 3 has CPI ex shelter, as well as Core ex shelter https://www.bls.gov/news.release/cpi.t03.htm
Rent (SA) https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/CUSR0000SEHA
Fred: (SA) Rent of Primary Residence in U.S. City Average https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/CUSR0000SEHA
(NSA) https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/CUSR0000SEHA
SA = Seasonally Adjusted, NSA = Not Seasonally Adjusted
elleng
(136,571 posts)WHO wrote the headline???
mahatmakanejeeves
(61,298 posts)It serves as a placeholder, until the report comes out.
And good afternoon.
elleng
(136,571 posts)and 'my' S + P UP +1.79%!
Good afternoon! Sunny and 63 here, that's 63 @ my front door, 'officially' 57 in Calvert County.