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Tansy_Gold

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Wed May 15, 2024, 03:39 PM May 2024

STOCK MARKET WATCH: Thursday, 16 May 2024

STOCK MARKET WATCH: Thursday, 16 May 2024



Previous SMW:
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AT THE CLOSING BELL ON 15 May 2024


Dow Jones 39,908.00 +349.89 (0.88%)
S&P 500 5,308.15 +61.47 (1.17%)
Nasdaq 16,742.39 +231.21 (1.40%)





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STOCK MARKET WATCH: Thursday, 16 May 2024 (Original Post) Tansy_Gold May 2024 OP
All time highs bucolic_frolic May 2024 #1
All time highs . . . . . Tansy_Gold May 2024 #2
lol If I were in NJ bucolic_frolic May 2024 #3
Every day I compare the S&P 500 to what it was at its then-all-time closing high on January 3, 2022 progree May 2024 #4

bucolic_frolic

(46,995 posts)
1. All time highs
Wed May 15, 2024, 06:01 PM
May 2024

A sample of random YouTube channels:

"All-in risk on!" Market pattern overlays show this movie before, and it's hundreds of percents higher from here over the next 4 years.

Dollar may crash. Bitcoin breaking out. 69,000 or thereabouts would be a new high.

Oil headed lower.

It was a trending day, if not in early there were no clear entry points. SCHG ETF up more than 1.5% on the day.

Some are worried about the banks. 6 banks have failed in the last 2 years, just like 2007-8. The money supply is very constrained, more so than any time since 1981. Pandemic STIM created inflation, the Fed is mopping it up. Real estate, multi-unit residential and commercial is contracting as rent resistance increases. Banks may be left with those loan defaults.

progree

(11,463 posts)
4. Every day I compare the S&P 500 to what it was at its then-all-time closing high on January 3, 2022
Wed May 15, 2024, 07:05 PM
May 2024

Last edited Wed May 15, 2024, 08:17 PM - Edit history (2)

and it's only 10.7% higher than that, a rather weak rise for 2 1/3 years, just a 4.5%/year average annual increase since then. So we're not in some kind of nosebleed territory.

In terms or purchasing power (i.e. after adjusting for inflation), it's in slightly negative territory.

(The Jan 3, 2022 all-time closing high of 4797 remained unbroken until January 19 of this year. And still remains unbroken when adjusted for inflation)

Historically, broad market averages like the S&P 500 spend most of their time at or within 7% of their all-time highs [1], often setting new highs, so setting new all-time highs is not anything particularly noteworthy or scary.

What's scary is how much bond prices have fallen, both in nominal dollars and far worse in inflation-adjusted dollars. It's supposedly the safe alternative that steadies a mixed equity-fixed income portfolio, but it's been anything but in the last 3 years.

And how much the purchasing power of my annuity's fixed income stream has fallen in the last 3 years (nearly 18%). Annuities are supposedly the safest of them all.

[1] Since 1956, the S&P 500 has spent 27.5% of its time within 2% of an all-time high, 44.1% within 5% of an all-time high, 51.5% within 7% of an all-time high, and 59.6% within 10% of an all-time high.
https://www.bespokepremium.com/interactive/posts/think-big-blog/sp-500-percent-of-time-at-new-highs

Edited to add footnote 1.

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