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So I talked to my friend today (Original Post) Omaha Steve Aug 2020 OP
well done! samnsara Aug 2020 #1
Super Sherman A1 Aug 2020 #2
Good on you Steve irisblue Aug 2020 #3
I don't believe we can revive the middle class without a strong union movement. Midnight Writer Aug 2020 #4
That's true. We have to pass the card check legislation- get rid demosincebirth Aug 2020 #15
Good old Ronald Reagan gab13by13 Aug 2020 #5
IMO, this bastard began it all Ferrets are Cool Aug 2020 #7
Also the dumbing down of America yankeepants Aug 2020 #10
Yes. Snackshack Aug 2020 #12
+1 Ferrets are Cool Aug 2020 #13
+1000 llmart Aug 2020 #9
Neither do I "get it" Ferrets are Cool Aug 2020 #11
You rock! duhneece Aug 2020 #6
Well done! niyad Aug 2020 #8
Reagan also granted amnesty PhylliPretzel Aug 2020 #14

demosincebirth

(12,740 posts)
15. That's true. We have to pass the card check legislation- get rid
Mon Aug 31, 2020, 10:25 AM
Aug 2020

Of the long and drawn out Union election process which favors the employer. Also, reregulate the the trucking industry like it was before Reagan.

gab13by13

(25,221 posts)
5. Good old Ronald Reagan
Mon Aug 31, 2020, 07:11 AM
Aug 2020

got the working class to vote against their own best interests, Only 6% of the private sector is unionized.

Ferrets are Cool

(21,957 posts)
7. IMO, this bastard began it all
Mon Aug 31, 2020, 07:26 AM
Aug 2020

Reagan also employed the trope of the "Welfare Queen" in order to rally support for reform of the welfare system. During his initial bid for the Republican nomination in 1976, and again in 1980, Reagan constantly made reference to the "Welfare Queen" at his campaign rallies

He also said "Unemployment insurance is a pre-paid vacation for freeloaders."

Snackshack

(2,541 posts)
12. Yes.
Mon Aug 31, 2020, 08:50 AM
Aug 2020

I was still in high school when Reagan was President and was just starting too really pay attention to politics and the impact it has. The entire downward trajectory of the GOP starts with Reagan IMO. The breaking of the ATC Union, Reagans pathetic response to the AIDS epidemic (which set back treatment for decades). As you mention the “Welfare Queen” trope and then Iran/Contra scandals which he should have been impeached for and many others out in jail for. That was also when religion began making a in roads in its lobbying. I can only imagine what else went on during the 80’s that never saw the light of day. But ever since then the GOP has steadily become more and more belligerent towards social values and anything below the upper class threshold and it’s only going to get worse.

DT for all his horrible qualities is just the start of a new phase in the GOP’s desire for an oligarchy here as it is in Russia. The next wave, Cotton, Massie, Rubio etc will push the line further. Unless...there is real accountability and justice applied to the current admin of DT. If people are held accountable by the Dems (if they win) and those who for the last 4 yrs have simply ignored the law are held to account we may be able to stop the progression. If we get the “We need to look forward not backward” from Biden if he wins it will only be slowed until the GOP (if they retain majority in Senate) can manufacture a way to impeach Biden.

llmart

(16,331 posts)
9. +1000
Mon Aug 31, 2020, 08:34 AM
Aug 2020

Your post is right on. Those of us who are old enough to remember, see Reagan as the beginning of the downfall of the middle class. I can remember so many people who were hurt by his busting of the unions. Now I see some of those same union workers who are retired and are avid GOP backers. They have excellent retirements because of what the unions did for them in their working days, but don't want that for others. I can understand the cognitive dissonance there. I live in Michigan where there are a lot of auto union workers who enjoyed the benefits of being in a union but now vote GOP.

We still have way too many people who fall for the things that are making their lives even harder and I don't get that.

PhylliPretzel

(144 posts)
14. Reagan also granted amnesty
Mon Aug 31, 2020, 09:06 AM
Aug 2020

to all the undocumented immigrants to give his rich backers a source of cheaper labor which helped break the unions and bring more workers from Mexico and Central America.
He stopped enforcing the law which penalized employers for hiring the undocumented. Enforcing that law would increase wages and working conditions as employers wouldn't have a cudgel to hold over the heads of the undocumented. Enforcement would also discourage illegal entry, thereby giving employment to citizens and green card holders.






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