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BadgerKid

(4,648 posts)
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 07:09 AM Aug 2021

What's with the high interest rates on credit cards?

A large financial company sent an offer of 26.99% APR (variable). I thought banks are so awash with cash as evidenced by $1 Trillion in federal reverse repo operations.

I don't understand...well, I do actually: greedy banks preying on desperate people.

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What's with the high interest rates on credit cards? (Original Post) BadgerKid Aug 2021 OP
One word Sherman A1 Aug 2021 #1
and because they all incorporate in SD which has no usury laws, apparently. Yes. GREEDY MOFOS CurtEastPoint Aug 2021 #2
Credit Cards can be great things Sherman A1 Aug 2021 #3
Fully agree. I use 2 and pay them off in full every month. CurtEastPoint Aug 2021 #4
Same here Sherman A1 Aug 2021 #6
At one time, I had to dig my way out that hole and multigraincracker Aug 2021 #8
Lack of collateral plus lousy credit FBaggins Aug 2021 #5
I was on the credit card train for years.... too many years. 3Hotdogs Aug 2021 #7
Company Greed nwliberalkiwi Aug 2021 #9
After college I managed to get a Sears card with a $250 credit limit. Tadpole Raisin Aug 2021 #10
High interest can easily be avoided calguy Aug 2021 #11
People need to become their own 'credit cards'...if one just waits for a few months instead of ... SWBTATTReg Aug 2021 #12
You just now noticed? PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2021 #13
You will never be rich unless you save. You will never save unless you spend less Tomconroy Aug 2021 #14

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
3. Credit Cards can be great things
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 07:25 AM
Aug 2021

Or they can be huge problems . You have to control them or they will control you.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
6. Same here
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 07:30 AM
Aug 2021

And game their rewards points programs. That said there was a time when I was on the other end of the spectrum during my first marriage and divorce. Learned my lessons and got them working for me instead of me working for them.

multigraincracker

(33,913 posts)
8. At one time, I had to dig my way out that hole and
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 07:44 AM
Aug 2021

I said never again. One little trick I used was, If I wanted something and not sure I needed it, I would wait 3 days to decide. Most of the time, after 3 days, I didn't buy it.

FBaggins

(27,441 posts)
5. Lack of collateral plus lousy credit
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 07:28 AM
Aug 2021

Equals high risk of loss - and therefore high interest rate to account for the likelihood that many of their customers won’t pay them back.

If your credit is bad enough that this is all that you can get, then my advice would be to not use credit cards… but sometimes you have to (car repairs, etc.)

If your credit is good, then there are much better cards with no interest for a year or more and rates as low as about 12%

Of course, if you use credit cards for convenience and not borrowing, you don’t care what the rate is because you never pay any interest,

3Hotdogs

(13,314 posts)
7. I was on the credit card train for years.... too many years.
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 07:36 AM
Aug 2021

They will all be paid off in eleven months. Shit I bought with the cards... well, I really didn't need them anyway. Impulse buying... Its on the screen. If I don't buy it now, it may never be on the screen again.

or "3 day special with free shipping."


I cut the four cards in half and live on the debit card.

nwliberalkiwi

(373 posts)
9. Company Greed
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 07:56 AM
Aug 2021

We had a credit card with 8.7% rate. We had made some purchases on the card for a total of about $1,200 dollars. Credit card company raised our rates reto actively to 17.99%. We promptly paid off the card, and returned the cut-up card with a nasty note. These credit card companies are nothing but parasites!!!

Tadpole Raisin

(1,379 posts)
10. After college I managed to get a Sears card with a $250 credit limit.
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 08:10 AM
Aug 2021

It took 2 more years of proving my credit worthiness to get a MC w/ $500 limit. Back then they almost served as a parent to keep you from overextending yourself during those critical years in your young adulthood and they knew they were making a decent profit.

Fast forward to graduate school, well after Reagan was in office and when going to the BU bookstore I found they put several credit card offers in my bag of purchases. I asked why they did that (so damn naive) and I got a strange look.

Later at home I looked over the offers and got a sinking feeling. If I had been given this after college I could have gotten myself in a lot of trouble. Seeing this dramatic change in credit being thrown at people I knew this was not going to end well. My rule was if I wanted something ask 3 questions: do I want it? (That’s easy) Do I need it? Can I afford it? One ‘no’ put the kabash on most purchases.

Loosening credit by itself was not the problem. It was how it was done. Everything became more expensive.

Can’t afford that appliance? Don’t wait and save, put it on your card!
Can’t afford college, a car, a house? No worries - take a loan out. They used to say you could afford a house that was up to 3x your income. Now? You’d be lucky to find a tear down home in a lot of areas.

Easy credit has been the worst thing for the average consumer.

Yes I am a CC deadbeat and proud of it!!

SWBTATTReg

(23,991 posts)
12. People need to become their own 'credit cards'...if one just waits for a few months instead of ...
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 10:11 AM
Aug 2021

immediately buying desired items, by putting aside cash into savings themselves each month, then they have the reserve of cash themselves to buy such items. I did like the suggestion of one DUer in this trend that suggested waiting 3 days before deciding to buy or not buy something.

Think of it this way, you are paying yourself instead of the credit card companies/banks/etc. that interest, after all, you can't get a decent rate on CDs now, but you can get a decent rate by paying yourself the 26.99% interest rate instead of to someone else. Save for at least six months (saving for longer than six months is preferred and you'll immediately notice the freedom that you have by control of your finances, not the banks controlling your finances).

Once you get to this 'break even' point by saving money/not spending money for a relatively short period of time, you'll be far more better, financially-wise, from that point on, if you continue this financial discipline.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(26,544 posts)
13. You just now noticed?
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 10:24 AM
Aug 2021

These high interest rates have been on the cards for decades, pretty much from the beginning.

I have one credit card and I pay it off every month. Not having a credit card at all is not a good idea, because some genuine crisis could occur and you'll need one for that emergency. Plus, even if you plan to pay cash at the end, things like hotels and rental car companies require a credit card.

 

Tomconroy

(7,611 posts)
14. You will never be rich unless you save. You will never save unless you spend less
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 10:31 AM
Aug 2021

Than you earn. Avoid credit card debt at all costs.
If you master those three the rest is comparatively easy.

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