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Tue Jul 9, 2024, 11:01 PM Jul 9

Vanguard's Die-Hard Customers Have a Message for New CEO: 'The Service Is Abysmal' - WSJ

Vanguard won an army of loyal customers by cutting fees to the bone and promoting simple index-tracking investing. Now many of those fans are fed up. New Chief Executive Officer Salim Ramji will be the first outsider to take the helm of the beloved fund manager on Monday, and many clients are hoping he will finally fix a longstanding source of frustration: the customer service. Social media, review websites and online forum Reddit are frequently flooded with Vanguard brokerage customers complaining about issues spanning glitchy trades, incorrect balance information and hard-to-reach customer representatives.

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Vanguard ranked last out of eight major brokerages for customer satisfaction with website performance and mobile apps in a recent survey of 2,700 investors conducted by Investor’s Business Daily, which is published by The Wall Street Journal’s parent company, Dow Jones. The asset manager has acknowledged the problems, which some analysts chalk up to an underinvestment in technology. Former CEO Tim Buckley, who announced his retirement in February, said in 2019 that the firm would spend $1 billion a year to improve its technology. Vanguard rolled out a modernized app in 2021, but customers weren’t impressed and complained of bugs and dumbed-down functionality.

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Many clients have the bulk of their life savings in Vanguard accounts, adding to the stress when issues can’t be resolved quickly. Madeline Moonan, a 77-year-old resident of Stafford, Va., said Vanguard accepted her request to transfer some fund shares from a traditional IRA to a Roth IRA in 2022 but never completed the transfer. Moonan said it took Vanguard six months to correct the issue. She paid $350 to consult with an accountant about tax consequences.

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For investors having web or tech issues, the lack of night or weekend service is a particular point of frustration. Vanguard’s customer-service line is open Monday through Friday from 8 a.m. to 8 p.m. Eastern time. Rivals Fidelity and Charles Schwab both offer 24/7 customer service by phone.

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New fees and rules have also left customers feeling nickel-and-dimed. Account closures or transfers to other brokerages may now cost a $100 processing fee. For clients with less than $1 million in qualifying assets, mutual fund or ETF trades placed over the phone cost $25. Brokerage-account customers were also recently warned that “excessive reliance on phone associates” could lead to additional fees or account termination.

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Vanguard's Die-Hard Customers Have a Message for New CEO: 'The Service Is Abysmal' - WSJ (Original Post) question everything Jul 9 OP
Alan Sloan is unhappy with Vanguard's new fees, and is moving to Schwab, 6/11/24 progree Jul 9 #1
I have delt with Vanguard for decades. I doc03 Jul 10 #2
I had, once and was lucky, I suppose, to call and immediately talked to an agent question everything Jul 10 #4
I've encountered some glitchy software. GoodRaisin Jul 10 #3
Exiting very soon. bucolic_frolic Jul 10 #5
Yup, the land of Bogle has changed for sure... Joinfortmill Jul 10 #6

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(11,389 posts)
1. Alan Sloan is unhappy with Vanguard's new fees, and is moving to Schwab, 6/11/24
Tue Jul 9, 2024, 11:12 PM
Jul 9

Vanguard 'nickel-and-dimes Grandma' after 49 years without junk fees, 5/18/24
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/vanguard-nickel-and-dimes-grandma-after-49-years-without-junk-fees-100022222.html

Unhappy customer: Why I finally took my business from Vanguard to Charles Schwab, 6/11/24
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/unhappy-customer-why-i-finally-took-my-business-from-vanguard-to-charles-schwab-180758503.html

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Full disclosure: Nearly half of my investible nest egg is at Vanguard. I also have money at Fidelity and Schwab.

question everything

(48,423 posts)
4. I had, once and was lucky, I suppose, to call and immediately talked to an agent
Wed Jul 10, 2024, 01:57 AM
Jul 10

It was in January when I was ready to withdraw the first RMD for the year (I do it in 12 installments).

I had no other option but to hit the OK and I was presented with a different form where the funds instead of being electronically transferred to my bank, they were in a Money Market fund (I think) with no options for tax withholding.

So I quickly called and managed to talk to a live person who understood my problem, cancelled the transaction and guided me to a different way.

Since then, when I am ready to sell there is a a note on the screen that for an RMD withdrawal one can select the “long form” - or something.

bucolic_frolic

(45,600 posts)
5. Exiting very soon.
Wed Jul 10, 2024, 07:51 AM
Jul 10

Paranoid about offices all over the country. Unhappy with oodles and boodles of funds, all owning the same 13 stocks plus bundled funds of funds that own each other. I'm not seeing a performance edge or effort.

Buying the top 50 in size, growth, and earnings is a viable strategy today. Look at the high fliers over the last 10-20 years. Has indexing beat any of them?

Joinfortmill

(15,681 posts)
6. Yup, the land of Bogle has changed for sure...
Wed Jul 10, 2024, 09:51 AM
Jul 10

You need to be tech savvy, at least to the extent that you can complete your own transfers, etc. I've been with VG for 20 years. The funds are great, the customer service, I must admit, was never that great, but now it's laughable.

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