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elleng

(136,108 posts)
Wed Apr 16, 2014, 12:41 AM Apr 2014

Revised SAT Won’t Include Obscure Vocabulary Words.

Well isn't that nice???

The College Board on Wednesday will release many details of its revised SAT, including sample questions and explanations of the research, goals and specifications behind them.

“We are committed to a clear and open SAT, and today is the first step in that commitment,” said Cyndie Schmeiser, the College Board’s chief of assessment, in a conference call on Monday, previewing the changes to be introduced in the spring of 2016.

She said the 211-page test specifications and supporting materials being shared publicly include “everything a student needs to know to walk into that test and not be surprised.”

One big change is in the vocabulary questions, which will no longer include obscure words. Instead, the focus will be on what the College Board calls “high utility” words that appear in many contexts, in many disciplines — often with shifting meanings — and they will be tested in context. For example, a question based on a passage about an artist who “vacated” from a tradition of landscape painting, asks whether it would be better to substitute the word “evacuated,” “departed” or “retired,” or to leave the sentence unchanged. (The right answer is “departed.”)

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/16/education/revised-sat-wont-include-obscure-vocabulary-words.html?hp

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Revised SAT Won’t Include Obscure Vocabulary Words. (Original Post) elleng Apr 2014 OP
Darnation! nt greyl Apr 2014 #1
Good. SheilaT Apr 2014 #2
A well-read person, familiar with our human literature, would know these words Demeter Apr 2014 #5
I read a lot. A whole lot. More than most people. SheilaT Apr 2014 #7
But that's why I know a lot of obscure words! Freddie Apr 2014 #3
Hmmm.... Sherman A1 Apr 2014 #4
My blood runs cold Demeter Apr 2014 #6
So, future assignments in English Composition could be as follows... xocet Apr 2014 #8
OMG! Sherman A1 Apr 2014 #9
This should be read as a judgment on all of us, I'm afraid. snot Apr 2014 #10
Hmm, time for Jerry Clower to update "Words We Don't Need" mbperrin Apr 2014 #11
 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
2. Good.
Wed Apr 16, 2014, 02:50 AM
Apr 2014

While I'm one who does very well on these kinds of tests, they are not a very good means of determining vocabulary. None of us use obscure words. Most of us don't ever run across them in our real lives. Real words in real situations are what matter.

 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
5. A well-read person, familiar with our human literature, would know these words
Wed Apr 16, 2014, 05:46 AM
Apr 2014

But we are no longer intent on creating well-read, well-rounded, thinking generations, are we?

NO, we just need to produce rank upon rank of corporate clones who are rigid and blind to meaning and purpose of language, the struggles of history, the rigors of the scientific method, and the flash of genius.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
7. I read a lot. A whole lot. More than most people.
Wed Apr 16, 2014, 12:11 PM
Apr 2014

And while I recognize words that I'd never ever be using , and I also use words that other people sometimes look confused at, I think all too often the SAT vocabulary words are beyond obscure and are often used in ways that are confusing.

There's a way to test for a strong vocabulary without going to a ridiculous point.

Sort of like the National Spelling Bee. The kids who win those usually spend hours and hours every day memorizing words even too obscure for the SAT people, and while it's nice they can spell words they will never again encounter, it's not an entirely useful skill.


Somehow getting people interested in reading regularly would be vastly more effective than memorizing lists of words.

Freddie

(9,696 posts)
3. But that's why I know a lot of obscure words!
Wed Apr 16, 2014, 04:59 AM
Apr 2014

My 11th grade English teacher spent part of the class the whole year on obscure words prepping us for the SATs. She was a wonderful teacher. As a result I did great on that part of the test and I'm good at crossword puzzles.
Maybe it's not something you need in "real life" but I enjoy knowing and using some obscure words, and if I run across a new one I always look it up.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
4. Hmmm....
Wed Apr 16, 2014, 05:26 AM
Apr 2014

what a great idea, let's find another reason to diminish vocabulary, but then perhaps in our texting world of 140 character messages we don't need more than LOL, WTF and OMG?

xocet

(3,944 posts)
8. So, future assignments in English Composition could be as follows...
Wed Apr 16, 2014, 02:01 PM
Apr 2014

"Write an essay in 140 characters or less that compares and contrasts the rise and fall of the Roman Empire with that of the British Empire."

Or as it may be in that not-too-distant future vernacular:

"Wrt n essy n 140 char or lss tht cmprs & cntrsts t rse & fll of t Rmn Mpr w/ tht of t Brtsh Mpr:

Csr ws klld. T 2nd Trmvt frm. Octvn dftd Mark Tony. ACsr tk pwr. Thngs cllpsd ltr. etc. LOL tl;dnr LOL gtg LOL


snot

(10,705 posts)
10. This should be read as a judgment on all of us, I'm afraid.
Wed Apr 16, 2014, 10:36 PM
Apr 2014

Just because a kid is poor, shouldn't mean s/he's never encountered "obscure" vocabulary. Libraries are free; and public education and public support for the poor should be sufficient for poor kids to have had access to and an interest in the books that contain "obscure" words.

This is the SAT having to try to compensate for the last several decades of cutting programs to help the poor amid growing poverty due to "trickle down" economic policies and the like.

mbperrin

(7,672 posts)
11. Hmm, time for Jerry Clower to update "Words We Don't Need"
Sun Apr 20, 2014, 02:15 PM
Apr 2014

Like penitence, because we are no longer sorry for anything (Lookin' at YOU, Wall Street!)
Or foist, because now anything goes (Hey, General Mills, hitting "like" means no mediation for faulty products?)
Or foreseen (As in, no one could have foreseen, right, Condi?)
Or gallant (Good lord, who wants to even TRY it now?)
Or rigmarole (I mean, the advertising industry has to make a LIVING, right?)

Yeah, all pretty useless in our current culture. But MUST have

Twerking (Just look it up and you'll immediately feel worse.)
Gawjus (Yes, that OLD word "gorgeous" is just too cumbersome, isn't it?)
Flipers (Diapers worn by a flight crew when they have no access to a bathroom, but don't worry, they fly well even when stinking)
Selfie (Why YES, it IS all about ME!)

Well, gotta bounce! SAT is all that and a bag of chips, right? I don't know why I'm bugg'n, cause a little clownin never made anyone go postal! (Gratuitous 90's flashback)

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