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If you are/were a certified teacher, did you in any of your coursework (Original Post) raccoon May 2014 OP
yes handmade34 May 2014 #1
Not until grad school. femmocrat May 2014 #2
I am, and I did. elephant hunter May 2014 #3
I was graduated in 1970. Hoppy May 2014 #4
Yup. Igel May 2014 #5
Yes, a lot. madfloridian May 2014 #6
Yes, of course. knitter4democracy May 2014 #7
I learned very little CRK7376 May 2014 #8
I did, but it took me years to learn this tidbit. Goblinmonger May 2014 #9
Yes. LWolf May 2014 #10
After 25 years, sulphurdunn Jun 2014 #11
Most teacher education programs have units on management now. Sancho Jun 2014 #12
 

Hoppy

(3,595 posts)
4. I was graduated in 1970.
Tue May 13, 2014, 05:29 PM
May 2014

Nothing on classroom management until inservice, several years into teaching.

Igel

(36,108 posts)
5. Yup.
Tue May 13, 2014, 05:31 PM
May 2014

In ed psych, not strategies per se but strategies for ascertaining what was going on. Generalities, reward systems, etc.

In a class just on classroom management we went back to reward systems, classroom layouts, rule-setting and goal-setting. On subverting the students in a class and getting peer pressure to work against disruptors. On ways of managing time and organization.

There were required observation hours. A large portion of them were to be devoted to observing and commenting not just on teaching strategies but on classroom management strategies.

My program allowed internships. But the one I picked I picked because it had the optino of student teaching. It was a requirement, as far as I was concerned.

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
6. Yes, a lot.
Tue May 13, 2014, 09:12 PM
May 2014

We had to tutor individuals in the community, including profoundly handicapped...even if we were not going for special ed. We had small groups of kids on campus to work with, plus the intense internship for about 2 months.

knitter4democracy

(14,350 posts)
7. Yes, of course.
Wed May 14, 2014, 11:00 PM
May 2014

We covered it in a couple of classes and then massively in student teaching (I had a rough placement).

CRK7376

(2,226 posts)
8. I learned very little
Tue May 20, 2014, 01:53 PM
May 2014

in my teacher education classes, both undergrad and grad level on classroom management. Observations and practical application in my own classroom were better teachers than most of the stuffed shirts in Education departments across the country. Watching teachers that I really respected and also observing or experiencing poor teachers were a great way to learn, for me. Having spent 13 years of teaching experience under my belt when I left teaching, now that I am retiring from the military and hoping to return to a high school classroom it will be interesting to see what has changed, and how I have changed.....

 

Goblinmonger

(22,340 posts)
9. I did, but it took me years to learn this tidbit.
Tue May 20, 2014, 02:05 PM
May 2014

The people that are teaching classroom management are a specific type of person. Very rule oriented. Yellows if you have done that color personality thing. If you aren't a yellow, then that won't work for you. I spent a good deal of time trying to do what I was taught and it never worked. Only once I started realizing it wasn't my thing (which took far too many years for me to realize) that I started adopting classroom management tactics that work for me (I'm a green). I haven't sent a kid to the office going on 3 years now. And before that one kid, it was another 2 years. That kid tried to say he didn't do anything which the office staff laughed at.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
10. Yes.
Sun May 25, 2014, 11:48 AM
May 2014

I learned more actual, practical information during student teaching, though. Coursework generally covered how to write and teach lesson plans in specific subjects.

And, of course, there has always been a focus, in districts I worked for, on staff development in classroom management.

 

sulphurdunn

(6,891 posts)
11. After 25 years,
Sun Jun 1, 2014, 08:47 AM
Jun 2014

I've concluded that classroom management is an OJT deal that everyone handles differently. I think formulaic classroom management strategies are limited in their utility and often become counterproductive when applied inflexibly rather than modified to suit a particular learning environment.

Sancho

(9,103 posts)
12. Most teacher education programs have units on management now.
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 03:17 PM
Jun 2014

It was included in the 1992 INTASC principles for teacher training (NCATE, CCSSO). It's not always a stand alone class, but it's often in either the educational psychology class or clinical training. The topic was included for teacher training long before the 90's though.

No matter what training the teacher has, they can't always change the school or district values that make classroom management something beyond the individual teacher. Only the administration, the community, and the faculty together can create a consistent system so that management planning works.

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