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newblewtoo

(667 posts)
Sun Jul 13, 2014, 03:39 PM Jul 2014

THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION BLAMES TEACHERS FOR A FAILED EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM

Bullshit. Pure and simple bullshit. If you missed the article here is the link:

http://www.educationviews.org/obama-administration-blames-teachers-failed-educational-system/

From the article:


The Obama administration ignores the fact that federal policies have historically failed our children and turned the American educational system into a free fall of descending skills. Teachers, according to the Obama administration, are the reason our schools are failing. The administration claims that too few teachers were top students in high school and that too many teacher-prep programs are inadequate. Their solution is to support minority colleges and to attract minority teachers to meet future educational needs of students. Our Future, Our Teachers provides a solution based on race.


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According to Arne Duncan, U.S. Secretary of Education, a successful educational system will result once the 1.6 million teachers anticipated to retire have been replaced with those who have been trained by college programs shaped by The Obama Administration’s Plan for Teacher Education Reform and Improvement also known as Our Future, Our Teachers.

Mr. Duncan explains that once the Obama-trained teachers fill the classrooms, “we can transform public education in this country and finally begin to deliver an excellent education for every child.” However, if a transformed educational system is one in which teachers have been trained by colleges to accept federal mandates without reservation, irreparable harm will follow for the American student, the American economy, and the American political system.

Believing that teachers should be “trained”, the federal government devalues teachers. Training makes dogs obedient. Teachers should prepare for their profession by becoming highly competent in the subject(s) that they teach.


I am not sure where to begin with this I am really disappointed when I see articles like this.
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elleng

(135,687 posts)
1. I go no further than to reiterate that arne duncan was and still is President Obama's WORST MISTAKE.
Sun Jul 13, 2014, 03:45 PM
Jul 2014

ellenrr

(3,864 posts)
11. ++ - I always think it is funny when people call Obama's policies/appoinments
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 06:03 AM
Jul 2014

that they don't agree with "mistakes".

Like this guy who is so brilliant, and who has all the resources in the world, doesn't check out who he appoints.

you are so right msongs.

Same with Vilsack, sec Agriculture,
same with Treasury appointments

 

vi5

(13,305 posts)
13. Every time I point this out....
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 07:19 AM
Jul 2014

That when faced with the choices of picking anyone he wanted, he chose the (mostly) right leaning, corporatists hacks that he did, all the apologists can barely muster anything beyond the usual "And who would Romney or McCain have picked?!?!"

And don't forget his original chief of staff Mr. Anti-Teachers/Anti-Union Rahm Emmanuel.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
2. I gotta say... I was a 'top student' in high school
Sun Jul 13, 2014, 03:46 PM
Jul 2014

(I missed being tied for valedictorian by stupidly taking an optional typewriting class and getting a 'C') and I was at best a mediocre teacher during the time I taught low level college intro stuff as a grad student. 'Top student' doesn't transfer into 'top teacher' unless you actually get solid pedagogical instruction in being a teacher, as well, of course, as having the desire to help people learn how to learn. I had the desire, but no formal classes in education until, bizarrely, my much later BSN, which required a course on nursing education.

femmocrat

(28,394 posts)
4. I take offense at that.
Sun Jul 13, 2014, 04:23 PM
Jul 2014

I was a "top student" in HS and college. It took me years to develop the skills required to be an effective teacher, however! I was still working on it even the year I retired.

If they think they can crank out perfect little teaching robots, they are so wrong.

 

vi5

(13,305 posts)
5. I'm sure the Republicans made him say that.
Sun Jul 13, 2014, 04:33 PM
Jul 2014

Just like they clearly MADE him pick Arne Duncan to be in charge of Education.

Right? I mean any and all of his shitty decisions and opinions HAVE to be because Republicans made him, right?

cheapdate

(3,811 posts)
6. Sensationalist hyperbole rarely scores points in my book.
Sun Jul 13, 2014, 04:38 PM
Jul 2014

I have sharp disagreements with Arne Duncan and with Barack Obama over education policy. But the sensationalist headline, "OBAMA ADMINISTRATION BLAMES TEACHERS FOR A FAILED EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM" -- grossly distorts the true fundamental arguments over public education in the United States.

I believe there is value in "training" educators -- where "training" refers to having teachers complete a university level course of study in the art and science of education. I believe that teaching is a demanding profession and that professional educators deserve the same respect we afford to other highly-skilled professionals.

Teachers are treated like shit in school systems all over the country. They're treated more and more like hourly production workers and less and less like skilled professionals. School administrators continuously pile on more and more demands while reducing resources and the time available for teachers to focus on the primary task of educating students.

Quality education is time-consuming and expensive. I have occasionally had to prepare training sessions for certain technical subjects. It's not easy. Preparing for a half-day training takes me at least a full day of preparation.

Teachers are burdened ever more with unnecessary requirements for evaluation and testing. I blame NCLB but I also blame Arne Duncan -- who seems to essentially embrace the "free-market" ideology behind NCLB.

FLyellowdog

(4,276 posts)
7. I don't know exactly what will supposedly make "Obama trained teachers" better than what we have
Sun Jul 13, 2014, 04:52 PM
Jul 2014

but I DO know that merely being competent in the subject one is required to teach is a far cry from one being an effective teacher. Teachers don't teach subjects, we teach students...and there's a HUGE different between the two.

IMHO, that's one of the things that's been wrong all along...too many teachers who in fact may know their subject matter but very little about how to impart that matter in meaningful, authentic, and adaptive ways so that students of various ability levels can be successful.

Yes, teachers absolutely do need to be competent in their subject matter but they also need training...in many areas..such as behavioral sciences, child psychology, classroom management, just to name a few. Training does not, nor has it ever, devalued teachers. It is simply a way to improve one's performance by increasing his/her skill level. Training for teachers is not the same as training for dogs and to compare one with the other could certainly be considered as a devaluation of teachers and the role they have in the future of our children.

Our students are rapidly changing due to many cultural and environmental influences...social issues, economic variants, technological advances. Teachers must keep up the pace and change with the student population in order to be successful and that requires ongoing training.

Will Obama trained teachers have better success rates than current teachers do? We'll have to see. But my guess is that as advances in education occur with each generation of teachers, we'll see more and more success.

Igel

(36,010 posts)
10. Link for how teachers ranked in college/etc.
Sun Jul 13, 2014, 10:20 PM
Jul 2014
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/post/do-teachers-really-come-from-the-bottom-third-of-college-graduates/2011/12/07/gIQAg8HPdO_blog.html

Reasonable results, even if a bit schizophrenic. It looks at the claim, all the while saying that the claim, true or not, is really quite meaningless. (If it's meaningless, why spend most of the article dealing with it? Show it's irrelevant and move on.)

I'll stop there before I launch into a screed against poorly trained and irresponsible teachers.
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