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LeftishBrit

(41,302 posts)
Tue Jul 15, 2014, 03:26 AM Jul 2014

MICHAEL GOVE IS OUT AS BRITISH EDUCATION SECRETARY!!!

Yay!

Problem is who will replace him; but I can't imagine that it could be worse. Gove is the worst we've had since Sir Keith Joseph.

I know this won't be of direct relevance to most of you, but since you have Education Secretary trouble too, I though you might like to know.

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dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
1. Michael Gove moved to chief whip in cabinet reshuffle
Tue Jul 15, 2014, 03:37 AM
Jul 2014

He has been replaced by Treasury minister Nicky Morgan, as Mr Cameron promotes more women into top jobs.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-28302487

 

Smarmie Doofus

(14,498 posts)
2. We don't have "Education Secretary trouble" so much as "President of the United States trouble".
Tue Jul 15, 2014, 03:50 AM
Jul 2014

>>>>
I know this won't be of direct relevance to most of you, but since you have Education Secretary trouble too, I though you might like to know.>>>>>

But in either case... we have trouble. So, yes, thanks. And we WOULD like to know.

What's your take: was Gove recognized as a floperoo? At long last?

LeftishBrit

(41,302 posts)
3. I think it's more that Cameron realizes that there's an election in 10 months' time
Tue Jul 15, 2014, 04:13 AM
Jul 2014

And is therefore sacking or moving some of his more unpopular ministers (Gove will now be Chief Whip, which somehow sounds appropriate the way he ran Education). Also the party is becoming increasingly unpopular with women voters, so he is appointing more women ministers, such as Nicky Morgan here.

 

Smarmie Doofus

(14,498 posts)
4. One of the advantages of the parliamentary system, imo.
Tue Jul 15, 2014, 04:20 AM
Jul 2014

That wouldn't and couldn't happen here.

Ask 10 adults on the street here "Who is the United States Secretary of Education?" and 9 and 1/2 will not be able to identify him.

Starry Messenger

(32,375 posts)
5. Interesting that his policies are almost identical to Duncan's and Gove is a Tory.
Tue Jul 15, 2014, 05:40 AM
Jul 2014

At least Gove is the correct party for his ideology, over here we have to pretend Duncan is a liberal.

Anyone know anything about the new person? And does anyone think this reshuffle was a result of the huge public sector demonstration on the 10th?

LeftishBrit

(41,302 posts)
7. Interesting indeed
Tue Jul 15, 2014, 07:10 AM
Jul 2014

Though under Blair we had Education Secretaries David Blunkett and Charles Clarke, who were to the right of some Tories (though still to the left of Gove).

I don't think that the reshuffle has anything to do with the public sector strike - it had probably been planned for a while. Overall, the Cabinet's political balance has if anything been moved to the Right, even though Education is probably an improvement.

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
8. Duncan and Gove, 2 of a kind.
Tue Jul 15, 2014, 11:47 AM
Jul 2014

Thanks for letting us know. My worst fear is that if Arne goes....someone worse will replace him.

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