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Judi Lynn

(162,374 posts) Thu Oct 3, 2024, 06:45 AM Oct 3

Can Cultivated Meat Take Off Before the Inevitable Tech Backlash?

October 3, 2024

Jon Hochschartner

I recently saw a software developer boasting on social media about his new artificial-intelligence program which allowed users to convincingly swap the face of one person onto another in a live video, employing a single photograph as a reference. When commenters asked what use this might have outside of financial scams or deep-fake pornography, the developer essentially shrugged his shoulders.

The response appears to have been so severe the developer has since deleted his post. Now, I’m sure there might be some productive use for the technology, but none immediately comes to mind, while a host of anti-social behavior does. I worry this sort of Silicon Valley nihilism will create a larger backlash against all technological development, including that which could genuinely make the world better.

For example, I’m a strong proponent of cultivated meat. If you are unfamiliar with the term, cultivated meat is grown from livestock cells, without slaughter. It provides a potential solution to a number of seemingly intractable problems. I’m specifically talking about the animal-welfare, public-health and environmental costs of our food system, which are enormous, when you begin to consider them.

The successful commercialization of cultivated meat would help reduce the number of aquatic and land animals we kill every year for consumption, which conservative estimates place at over a trillion. The amount of suffering this represents is almost impossible to imagine. To put it in a little perspective, only about 117 billion humans have ever lived, according to the Population Reference Bureau.

The more cellular agriculture replaces livestock farming, the more we would lower the risk of zoonotic diseases making the jump to our species and causing another global pandemic. For instance, experts are terrified avian flu, which appears to have begun spreading among humans, will do this. Since animals are removed from the process, cultivated meat would significantly decrease concern.

More:
https://www.counterpunch.org/2024/10/03/can-cultivated-meat-take-off-before-the-inevitable-tech-backlash/

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Can Cultivated Meat Take Off Before the Inevitable Tech Backlash? (Original Post) Judi Lynn Oct 3 OP

K&R jfz9580m Oct 4 #1

Thank you for sharing your thoughts. Much appreciated. Judi Lynn Oct 4 #2

Thank you for posting that jfz9580m Oct 4 #3

My wife is vegetarian, nearly vegan, and I'm too lazy to cook separate meals for myself. hunter Oct 5 #4

jfz9580m

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1. K&R

Reply to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Fri Oct 4, 2024, 11:51 AM

Oct 4

The successful commercialization of cultivated meat would help reduce the number of aquatic and land animals we kill every year for consumption, which conservative estimates place at over a trillion. The amount of suffering this represents is almost impossible to imagine. To put it in a little perspective, only about 117 billion humans have ever lived, according to the Population Reference Bureau.

Indeed. Our food system is nightmarish. I cannot believe methods like Ventilation Shutdown (roasting poultry alive) are quietly normalized.

That is not a normal society. Modern animal agriculture is exceptionally barbaric. Especially given what we know about animal cognition.

Judi Lynn

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2. Thank you for sharing your thoughts. Much appreciated.

Reply to jfz9580m (Reply #1)

Fri Oct 4, 2024, 01:47 PM

Oct 4

The world can afford to evolve by now.

jfz9580m

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3. Thank you for posting that

Reply to Judi Lynn (Reply #2)

Fri Oct 4, 2024, 11:30 PM

Oct 4

hunter

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4. My wife is vegetarian, nearly vegan, and I'm too lazy to cook separate meals for myself.

Reply to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Sat Oct 5, 2024, 09:51 AM

Oct 5

I do most of the cooking and eat what she eats. I guess that makes me mostly vegetarian.

My wife does eat eggs, mostly sourced from a coworker's small farm where the chickens roam freely about.

The only meat we're likely to have in our house is dog kibble. I don't expect the dogs to be vegetarians. Their food is probably made from factory farm chickens. Sigh.

Sometimes I'll buy meat when carnivorous friends and family are visiting.

Personally, I find modern vegetarian meat substitutes such as the Impossible or Beyond brands acceptable. There are even some good imitations of fish. The only meats I ever have a craving for are the more strongly flavored fish like mackerel.

Most of the animal protein I ate as a kid was fish my dad caught. When me and my siblings got older he took us fishing too. When I was a kid the home freezer always had fish in it.

I suspect lab grown meats have missed their window of opportunity. It's a lot easier to make "meat" out of peas and other vegetable proteins and fats than it is to grow actual animal cells in a vat.

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