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Caribbeans

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Fri Jan 31, 2025, 04:08 PM Friday

California cities launch nation's first public hydrogen utility


First Public Hydrogen, a public utility created by the California cities of Lancaster and Industry, began selecting hydrogen suppliers at a Jan. 13, 2025, board meeting.

California cities launch nation’s first public hydrogen utility

Although the Inflation Reduction Act’s 45V tax credit was critical to its formation, the new utility hopes to avoid dependence on the federal incentive.

SmartCitiesDive.com | Emma Penrod | Jan. 30, 2025

Dive Brief:

First Public Hydrogen, or FPH2, a public utility created by the California cities of Lancaster and Industry, began the process of selecting hydrogen suppliers at a Jan. 13 board meeting, following the finalization of the 45V clean hydrogen production tax credit guidance.

Although FPH2 aims to avoid dependence on the 45V tax credits, the incentives are critical to driving hydrogen adoption, according to R. Rex Parris, mayor of the City of Lancaster and chair of the FPH2 board.

By acting as a public intermediary between buyers and sellers of hydrogen, FPH2 aims to make hydrogen more accessible, affordable and transparent, Parris said in an interview with Utility Dive.

Dive Insight:

California has a series of advantages for producing hydrogen — including an exemption from the energy procurement standards set earlier this month by the final 45V hydrogen tax credit guidance. While the tax credit played a key role in the timing of when the cities of Lancaster and Industry chose to launch FPH2, Parris said he believes there is a path for other municipalities to follow suit.

“While there are challenges at the national level, we believe the combination of 45V incentives and state-level initiatives will drive the necessary growth in renewable energy and hydrogen production to achieve scale,” Parris said. “That said, collaboration between states, the federal government, and private industry will be essential to ensuring sufficient supply.”...more
https://www.smartcitiesdive.com/news/california-lancaster-public-hydrogen-utility-45v/738766/



Hydrogen City

Creating a
Better Tomorrow.
Together.

The City of Lancaster, California, was the first
United States city to embrace hydrogen power,
earning the moniker of the “First Hydrogen
City.”
The City has engaged in numerous
formal partnerships and agreements to harness
the potential of clean hydrogen. Lancaster is
jumpstarting hydrogen adoption throughout the
Antelope Valley and southern California.
https://www.cityoflancasterca.org/home/showpublisheddocument/44716/637975551313570000
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California cities launch nation's first public hydrogen utility (Original Post) Caribbeans Friday OP
Oh good. More dependence on fossil fuels by making California's dependence on natural gas even worse. NNadir Friday #1

NNadir

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1. Oh good. More dependence on fossil fuels by making California's dependence on natural gas even worse.
Fri Jan 31, 2025, 08:12 PM
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Posting a misleading picture of wind turbine garbage doesn't mean that California makes hydrogen from it. It's just greenwashing fossil fuels.

California never stops burning natural gas to make electricity, even during those hours where all of our assholes claim that it's a big deal because for a few minutes or hours, it produced "100% renewable energy." (Nobody builds an economically viable plant that runs 15 hours a year.) It is a gas dependent state. Since the manufacture of hydrogen using electricity, already a thermodynamically degraded form of energy wastes energy, the point is simply to make the climate disaster worse faster.

The laws of thermodynamics are not overturned by slick marketing videos produced to greenwash fossil fuels.

The EIA puts it pretty fucking clearly how hydrogen is made in the US, even as they promote wishful thinking about so called "green" hydrogen, the "green" clearly standing in as a short cut for greenwashing fossil fuels:

USEIA Hydrogen explained, Production of hydrogen

Steam-methane reforming is a widely used method of commercial hydrogen production
Steam-methane reforming accounts for nearly all commercially produced hydrogen in the United States. Commercial hydrogen producers and petroleum refineries use steam-methane reforming to separate hydrogen atoms from carbon atoms in methane (CH4). In steam-methane reforming, high-temperature steam (1,300°F to 1,800°F) under 3 bar–25 bar pressure (1 bar = 14.5 pounds per square inch) reacts with methane in the presence of a catalyst to produce hydrogen, carbon monoxide, and a relatively small amount of carbon dioxide (CO2).

Industrial facilities and petroleum refineries primarily use natural gas as the methane source for hydrogen production. Several fuel cell power plants in the United States treat and use landfill gas (biogas) as hydrogen source. Biofuels and petroleum fuels are also potential hydrogen sources.


I added the bold. On this planet, the miserably failed solar and wind industries, where the word failure refers to any environmental effects they have despite the denialist hype. The only effect on the environment for the trillions of dollars squandered on wind and solar only to make things worse faster. And no, there is no surplus to squander to make hydrogen; the natural gas industry is growing faster than solar, faster than wind, which of course is the purpose of marketing natural gas as "green hydrogen." So called "renewable energy" has been great for the gas industry, just like the "hydrogen is green" marketing program has been great for the gas industry.

A Giant Climate Lie: When they're selling hydrogen, what they're really selling is fossil fuels.

One thing I'll say for our marketing types coming here trying to rebrand fossil fuels as "green hydrogen" is that they're persistent. If one lies enough, one can hope to be believed. Look at our government as an example. They "green hydrogen" bullshitters are no different at all.
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