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Rhiannon12866

(250,299 posts)
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 03:59 AM Yesterday

Trump's wind energy assault sinks permitting reform - Senate Environment & Public Works Committee



By sabotaging one of our cheapest, cleanest energy sources, the Trump Administration has made clear that it is not interested in permitting reform.

On the Senate floor, ‪Senator Whitehouse‬ makes clear that the illegal attacks on fully permitted wind energy projects must be reversed if there is to be any chance that permitting talks resume. - 01/07/2026.

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Trump's wind energy assault sinks permitting reform - Senate Environment & Public Works Committee (Original Post) Rhiannon12866 Yesterday OP
drill baby drill rampartd Yesterday #1
Wind energy is not cheap, clean, or green. hunter Yesterday #2
Wind energy is cheaper, cleaner, and greener than doing nothing. thought crime 2 hrs ago #3

rampartd

(3,822 posts)
1. drill baby drill
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 04:13 AM
Yesterday

'cause we ain't gonna need a planet after jesus returns.

what is wrong with these people?

hunter

(40,376 posts)
2. Wind energy is not cheap, clean, or green.
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 06:05 PM
Yesterday

Sure, the creature-who-shall-not-be-named opposes it, but it's for all the wrong reasons.

Integrating wind energy into a reliable electric grid is EXPENSIVE and will only prolong our dependence on natural gas, thus doing nothing in the long run to reduce the total amount of greenhouse gasses humans ultimately dump into the atmosphere.

I don't want to see wind turbines off the California coast. We won't save the world by trashing it with these short-lived, high maintenance, follies.

As some kind of radical environmentalist I prioritize my opposition to massive data centers, factory farm meat and dairy production, and car culture.

The people with the smallest environmental footprints generally live in cities, don't own cars, and enjoy a mostly vegetarian diet.

thought crime

(1,214 posts)
3. Wind energy is cheaper, cleaner, and greener than doing nothing.
Fri Jan 9, 2026, 05:04 PM
2 hrs ago
Wind is one of cleanest, “greenest” and least costly sources of energy. Offshore Wind is more costly, but still economically viable while being much cleaner than fossil fuels and safer than nuclear. Floating Offshore Wind mitigates the NIMBY effect because turbines are much farther offshore. But I want to see wind turbines off the Pacific Coast and Hawaii because that’s what doing something about Climate Change actually looks like.

“Radical environmentalists” have long opposed data centers, factory farm meat and dairy production, and car culture. How effective has that really that been so far? Has it made a real dent in climate change or energy use? Have “Radical environmentalists” successfully convinced a majority to voluntarily reduce their carbon footprints to achieve measurable reductions in carbon output? Or is that really just “doing nothing in the long run to reduce the total amount of greenhouse gasses humans ultimately dump into the atmosphere”.

We no longer have the luxury to wait for ideal solutions. Wind and solar energy have some downsides but they both have the tremendous economic advantage of "extracting" an unlimited resource that doesn't affect the climate. The renewable industries now have inertia and momentum around the world and both are showing an amazing range of innovation and flexibility allowing better ways to integrate with existing electric grids but also to support development of a new "really green" hydrogen economy.

Real Radical Environmentalist Bill McKibben champions solar and wind energy as the most effective tools to combat climate change, arguing they are now the cheapest power sources, represent the fastest energy transition in history, and offer a path to a more democratic and sustainable future, despite disinformation campaigns from the fossil fuel industry
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