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uppityperson

(115,874 posts)
Thu Dec 22, 2011, 04:37 PM Dec 2011

**F&EL GROUP HOST ELECTION**VOTE**HERE**1 Week election

This discussion thread was locked by uppityperson (a host of the Frugal and Energy Efficient Living group).

We're all grateful to Hutzpa for serving as interim Lead Host, and Starboard Tack and maddezmom for secondary hosts, so thank you very much for your service.

Now--every Group community has the right to determine (1) whether they want a Host at all, and (2) who the Host(s) will be. So without further adieu, we are voting on THREE questions. Here's the ballot--copy and paste into your response. We'll let the election go for 1 week if everyone agrees (similar to how LGBT and other Groups recently held their Group Host election). At the end, we'll tally up the votes and send the results to Skinner.

1. Does F&EL need a Host? (Yes, No)

2. If the community majority decides that it DOES need a Host, who should be the Lead Host, permanent position unless resigns or voted out, as DU rules now are? (Nominate someone here)

3. Who, if anyone, should be secondary Hosts? (Nominate people here)

After we get nominations, assuming that the majority winner WANTS the position, we'll send the results to Skinner. If someone nominates you and you don't WANT to serve, please say so clearly.

Thanks all. Go vote!

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**F&EL GROUP HOST ELECTION**VOTE**HERE**1 Week election (Original Post) uppityperson Dec 2011 OP
my votes uppityperson Dec 2011 #1
the votes in the earlier thread, they will be counted also? dixiegrrrrl Dec 2011 #3
Would you move them over here please uppityperson Dec 2011 #4
Maybe edit the other one and call it discussion thread only in the header???.. Little Star Dec 2011 #5
I did, thanks. uppityperson Dec 2011 #8
I can't. dixiegrrrrl Dec 2011 #6
I meant copy/past them in this thread as a reply. Language has changed on DU3 uppityperson Dec 2011 #7
Here's my answers Little Star Dec 2011 #2
My answers Starboard Tack Dec 2011 #9
Would you or Maddezmom please pin this? uppityperson Dec 2011 #27
My votes Curmudgeoness Dec 2011 #10
I don't think the group needs a host--everyone seems to be very civil here. MADem Dec 2011 #11
I agree with MADem... However, if the group decides they want a host... hlthe2b Dec 2011 #38
My vote: dixiegrrrrl Dec 2011 #12
Y'all should ask Hutzpa to pin this. nt greyl Dec 2011 #13
I rec'd a pm to pin it and will be happy to do it if we have a consensus it would be a good idea maddezmom Dec 2011 #15
A pin would be nice. n/t Little Star Dec 2011 #16
Here: Le Taz Hot Dec 2011 #14
My votes: yardwork Dec 2011 #17
My votes cbayer Dec 2011 #18
I think having hosts here is fine maddezmom Dec 2011 #19
I agree add Curmudgeoness if she would agree. n/t Little Star Dec 2011 #22
I'm good with Curmudgeoness if would agree uppityperson Dec 2011 #24
Curmudgeoness is flattered, but Curmudgeoness Dec 2011 #39
I'd be happy to retire if you'd take my slot maddezmom Dec 2011 #40
Retired? Already? Ummm, is it that hard????? Curmudgeoness Dec 2011 #41
I don't have strong opinions about hosting... Phentex Dec 2011 #20
I'm only an occasional reader here MH1 Dec 2011 #21
I come by once in awhile gejohnston Dec 2011 #23
If there isn't a rush... kristopher Dec 2011 #25
Sounds like a good method, go through the steps. freshwest Dec 2011 #26
Please see reply #29. n/t Little Star Dec 2011 #30
It was a lot of work finding & PMing as many possible members as we could... Little Star Dec 2011 #29
I got a nice PM about this, and unsubscribed to another group over the host fracas. freshwest Dec 2011 #31
I'm sorry freshwest. Maybe I overreacted. I apologize if I added to your.. Little Star Dec 2011 #34
We are cool, really. Thanks for the good wishes, and the same to you and all here. freshwest Dec 2011 #35
That's fine, I understand completely. kristopher Dec 2011 #32
Thank You Kristopher. Have a happy holiday. n/t Little Star Dec 2011 #33
we probably need a host, just to pin stuff NMDemDist2 Dec 2011 #28
vote westerebus Dec 2011 #36
I appreciate all the work done to preserve this group. Here are my answers - badhair77 Dec 2011 #37
My vote. JDPriestly Dec 2011 #42
I am lukewarm about the need for a host. Perhaps as the group grows it might be more necessary. kestrel91316 Dec 2011 #43
My votes WolverineDG Dec 2011 #44
;-) UrbScotty Dec 2011 #45
Voting closed. Congratulations to Starboard Tack for being elected primary host. uppityperson Dec 2011 #46

uppityperson

(115,874 posts)
1. my votes
Thu Dec 22, 2011, 04:42 PM
Dec 2011

Last edited Fri Dec 23, 2011, 01:46 PM - Edit history (1)

1. Does F&FEL need a Host? (Yes)

2. If the community majority decides that it DOES need a Host, who should be the Lead Host? (Starboard Track)


3. Who, if anyone, should be secondary Hosts? (Maddezmom, uppityperson though I'd be happy to wait if it's a 9 month position, let primary host pick secondary as needed.)

dixiegrrrrl

(60,011 posts)
3. the votes in the earlier thread, they will be counted also?
Thu Dec 22, 2011, 05:21 PM
Dec 2011

2 threads on voting is confusing me.

uppityperson

(115,874 posts)
4. Would you move them over here please
Thu Dec 22, 2011, 05:30 PM
Dec 2011

I changed the other back and forth and thought was being asked for an **OFFICIAL*** thread so did here. Let's use this one, if you could copy/paste it into here. thanks.

Little Star

(17,055 posts)
5. Maybe edit the other one and call it discussion thread only in the header???..
Thu Dec 22, 2011, 05:50 PM
Dec 2011

just a suggestion.

uppityperson

(115,874 posts)
8. I did, thanks.
Thu Dec 22, 2011, 06:09 PM
Dec 2011

dixiegrrrrl

(60,011 posts)
6. I can't.
Thu Dec 22, 2011, 06:01 PM
Dec 2011

I am not a host in this group, which does not matter because no one can move threads.Not in DU3.

YOU can however edit your posts/threads at any time.( for future reference)
You might want to continue with this thread, then total up both pages, it will work that way, perhaps be less confusing.

uppityperson

(115,874 posts)
7. I meant copy/past them in this thread as a reply. Language has changed on DU3
Thu Dec 22, 2011, 06:09 PM
Dec 2011

Last edited Thu Dec 22, 2011, 07:07 PM - Edit history (1)

I changed the name on the other one, and the message in the body. Littlestar is the only one who voted there, and did here also, so will count it here.

Little Star

(17,055 posts)
2. Here's my answers
Thu Dec 22, 2011, 04:56 PM
Dec 2011

1. Does F&EL need a Host? (Yes)

2. If the community majority decides that it DOES need a Host, who should be the Lead Host, permanent position unless resigns or voted out, as DU rules now are? (Starboard Tack)

3. Who, if anyone, should be secondary Hosts? (Maddezmom, Uppityperson)

Starboard Tack

(11,181 posts)
9. My answers
Thu Dec 22, 2011, 07:24 PM
Dec 2011

1. Does F&EL need a Host? (Yes)
2. As I'm already a host and enjoy this group, I'm happy to continue.
3. Maddezmom

uppityperson

(115,874 posts)
27. Would you or Maddezmom please pin this?
Fri Dec 23, 2011, 04:55 PM
Dec 2011

thanks. I'd be happy to be secondary after the howevermany months it is hosts get (except for primary host who stays indefinitely) and leave it to you and M'smom now

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
10. My votes
Thu Dec 22, 2011, 08:24 PM
Dec 2011

1. Does F&EL need a Host?---------Yes

2. If the community majority decides that it DOES need a Host, who should be the Lead Host, permanent position unless resigns or voted out, as DU rules now are?---------Starboard Tack

3. Who, if anyone, should be secondary Hosts?---------Maddezmom and Uppityperson

MADem

(135,425 posts)
11. I don't think the group needs a host--everyone seems to be very civil here.
Thu Dec 22, 2011, 09:30 PM
Dec 2011

There's not much to fight about when everyone has the same essential goals.

I'll go along with the group--whatever everyone else wants is fine with me.

hlthe2b

(106,390 posts)
38. I agree with MADem... However, if the group decides they want a host...
Sat Dec 24, 2011, 12:28 AM
Dec 2011

I designate my vote to Starboard Track, if s/he accepts.
3. Primary hosts can approve and remove all other hosts, so I leave that to the new host

dixiegrrrrl

(60,011 posts)
12. My vote:
Thu Dec 22, 2011, 10:59 PM
Dec 2011

( and I will be posting more in this group, on the new DU)

1. A host can come in handy occasionally, I have discovered.
2. I designate my vote to Starboard Track, if s/he accepts.
3. Primary hosts can approve and remove all other hosts, so I leave that to the new host.

greyl

(22,997 posts)
13. Y'all should ask Hutzpa to pin this. nt
Fri Dec 23, 2011, 08:34 AM
Dec 2011

maddezmom

(135,060 posts)
15. I rec'd a pm to pin it and will be happy to do it if we have a consensus it would be a good idea
Fri Dec 23, 2011, 10:25 AM
Dec 2011

Little Star

(17,055 posts)
16. A pin would be nice. n/t
Fri Dec 23, 2011, 10:49 AM
Dec 2011

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
14. Here:
Fri Dec 23, 2011, 09:28 AM
Dec 2011

1. Does F&EL need a Host? (Yes, No) NO

2. If the community majority decides that it DOES need a Host, who should be the Lead Host, permanent position unless resigns or voted out, as DU rules now are? (Nominate someone here) . NOT A CLUE

3. Who, if anyone, should be secondary Hosts? (Nominate people here) . NOT A SECONDARY CLUE.

yardwork

(64,417 posts)
17. My votes:
Fri Dec 23, 2011, 10:50 AM
Dec 2011

1. Does F&EL need a Host? YES.
2. If the community majority decides that it DOES need a Host, who should be the Lead Host, permanent position unless resigns or voted out, as DU rules now are? STARBOARD TACK

3. Who, if anyone, should be secondary Hosts? LET THE LEAD HOST SELECT SECONDARY HOSTS

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
18. My votes
Fri Dec 23, 2011, 12:16 PM
Dec 2011

Yes

Starboard Tack

Maddezmom and uppityperson

maddezmom

(135,060 posts)
19. I think having hosts here is fine
Fri Dec 23, 2011, 12:53 PM
Dec 2011

As for lead hosts I am fine withe the consensus but would like to add one more for those under discussion: Curmudgeoness.

Little Star

(17,055 posts)
22. I agree add Curmudgeoness if she would agree. n/t
Fri Dec 23, 2011, 03:56 PM
Dec 2011

uppityperson

(115,874 posts)
24. I'm good with Curmudgeoness if would agree
Fri Dec 23, 2011, 04:36 PM
Dec 2011

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
39. Curmudgeoness is flattered, but
Sat Dec 24, 2011, 01:02 PM
Dec 2011

I think that a main host and two backup hosts should be enough for this group. We have fine candidates already, and I would be happy to take over when one of them decides to take a break.

I am assuming that all three are agreeable to being hosts. And they say assuming is a bad thing.

maddezmom

(135,060 posts)
40. I'd be happy to retire if you'd take my slot
Sat Dec 24, 2011, 01:15 PM
Dec 2011

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
41. Retired? Already? Ummm, is it that hard?????
Sat Dec 24, 2011, 04:22 PM
Dec 2011

I don't like work!!! Why do you think I sit here on the computer so much?

But not a problem. Let's wait to see how the votes come out and what is, is.

Phentex

(16,507 posts)
20. I don't have strong opinions about hosting...
Fri Dec 23, 2011, 03:16 PM
Dec 2011

but if hosts are needed, I'd go with the group mentioned: Starboard Tack, Curmudgeoness, Maddezmom and uppityperson.

MH1

(18,158 posts)
21. I'm only an occasional reader here
Fri Dec 23, 2011, 03:53 PM
Dec 2011

But to having a host I would say, yes.

I won't voice an opinion about who it should be, but it seems like there's a lot of agreement, and that's good.

gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
23. I come by once in awhile
Fri Dec 23, 2011, 04:31 PM
Dec 2011

and I'm kind of new.
It is a good idea to have a host just in case.
Starboard Track is the only one I know, I think he would do a good job. I would vote for either two or three.

kristopher

(29,798 posts)
25. If there isn't a rush...
Fri Dec 23, 2011, 04:38 PM
Dec 2011

Why not pin a vote on host/no host first.


if host, then pin one for nominations.

After noms collected pin election.

Simple, transparent and sequential.

If that is a suggestion coming too late, then:

No host needed IMO but I'm good with what is decided. I haven't used the FEE group much in the past but the new layout brings me to it far more often. I like it.


freshwest

(53,661 posts)
26. Sounds like a good method, go through the steps.
Fri Dec 23, 2011, 04:50 PM
Dec 2011

Little Star

(17,055 posts)
30. Please see reply #29. n/t
Fri Dec 23, 2011, 05:34 PM
Dec 2011

Little Star

(17,055 posts)
29. It was a lot of work finding & PMing as many possible members as we could...
Fri Dec 23, 2011, 05:33 PM
Dec 2011

It is kinda late to do what you suggest. People have already been notified that they have a week to respond to this thread. Sorry we didn't think of this before all the work and notifications because it would have been ok doing it in steps. However the three steps are here and people are responding to them.

So unless someone else wants to volunteer to notify all the people of the suggested changes and then start the process over again, I'm ok with the way it is. It covers all three steps of the process requirements that Skinner laid out. Also, other groups have been doing it this way with no problems. This way is also Simple, transparent and sequential.

I hope I don't sound harsh because I really don't mean to be. I just needed to tell you how at this late date I am not in favor of starting over. If a volunteer comes forward to undo what we have done and start over again I think that would need to go up for a vote.

Exaustedly, LS

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
31. I got a nice PM about this, and unsubscribed to another group over the host fracas.
Fri Dec 23, 2011, 06:37 PM
Dec 2011

I'm off this thread, after I was just informed today.

You guys settle this yourselves.

I'll see you guys after you wash the floors down.

And no offense, and don't think you were harsh.

I'm just sick of this stuff. Literally.

Little Star

(17,055 posts)
34. I'm sorry freshwest. Maybe I overreacted. I apologize if I added to your..
Fri Dec 23, 2011, 06:50 PM
Dec 2011

distress. I wish you a peaceful and happy holiday, LS

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
35. We are cool, really. Thanks for the good wishes, and the same to you and all here.
Fri Dec 23, 2011, 07:22 PM
Dec 2011

kristopher

(29,798 posts)
32. That's fine, I understand completely.
Fri Dec 23, 2011, 06:37 PM
Dec 2011

The work to date is appreciated very much. It's a reasonably fair approach; which is the primary goal we are trying to get to, right? I just read the thought by NMdemdist2 about pinning and I happen to agree, so you can change my view to one that is for a host.
I have no preference but am grateful to whoever takes on the extra work.

Little Star

(17,055 posts)
33. Thank You Kristopher. Have a happy holiday. n/t
Fri Dec 23, 2011, 06:43 PM
Dec 2011

NMDemDist2

(49,314 posts)
28. we probably need a host, just to pin stuff
Fri Dec 23, 2011, 05:09 PM
Dec 2011

maddezmom or you or anyone is fine with me

westerebus

(2,977 posts)
36. vote
Fri Dec 23, 2011, 08:41 PM
Dec 2011

1 yes

2 starboard tack

3 maddezmom.

Do I get a cookie?

OK How about a cookie receipe?

badhair77

(4,624 posts)
37. I appreciate all the work done to preserve this group. Here are my answers -
Fri Dec 23, 2011, 09:00 PM
Dec 2011

1. Does F&FEL need a Host? - Yes

2. If the community majority decides that it DOES need a Host, who should be the Lead Host? Starboard Track


3. Who, if anyone, should be secondary Hosts? Maddezmom, uppityperson, Curmudgeoness

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
42. My vote.
Sat Dec 24, 2011, 11:53 PM
Dec 2011

1. Does F&EL need a Host? No. It is unlikely that someone will post inappropriate items here or that people will not get along. Appointing a host might encourage someone to impose his or her idea about how this forum should develop. Why not just let the group grow naturally?

2. If the community majority decides that it DOES need a Host, who should be the Lead Host, permanent position unless resigns or voted out, as DU rules now are? I could not nominate anyone.

3. Who, if anyone, should be secondary Hosts? I don't think we need this.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
43. I am lukewarm about the need for a host. Perhaps as the group grows it might be more necessary.
Tue Dec 27, 2011, 08:18 PM
Dec 2011

We seem civil enough.

If the group develops problems and needs one I assume we can get one later on.

WolverineDG

(22,298 posts)
44. My votes
Tue Dec 27, 2011, 09:37 PM
Dec 2011

1. Does F&EL need a Host? (Yes, No) I would say "yes," even though I'm positive a host will have little to do. But a host is needed on the off-chance a post/thread needs to be locked/axed (as seen a couple of weeks ago in the Religion group--no host meant that a post that violated darn near every rule had to stand open because there was no one to kill it)

2. If the community majority decides that it DOES need a Host, who should be the Lead Host, permanent position unless resigns or voted out, as DU rules now are? I don't hang here often, so I would be fine with whoever the regulars select.

3. Who, if anyone, should be secondary Hosts? Same answer as #2.

dg

UrbScotty

(23,987 posts)
45. ;-)
Tue Dec 27, 2011, 10:07 PM
Dec 2011

1. Does F&EL need a Host? (Yes, No) For now, No. Maybe in the future.

2. If the community majority decides that it DOES need a Host, who should be the Lead Host, permanent position unless resigns or voted out, as DU rules now are? (Nominate someone here) maddezmom

3. Who, if anyone, should be secondary Hosts? (Nominate people here) uppityperson, Hutzpa, Starboard Tack

uppityperson

(115,874 posts)
46. Voting closed. Congratulations to Starboard Tack for being elected primary host.
Thu Dec 29, 2011, 09:03 PM
Dec 2011

A large majority voted to have a host with Starboard Tack coming in with the majority of votes for primary host.

Secondary hosts came in with Maddezmom getting 10, uppityperson 7, Curmudgeoness 5, Hutzpa 1 with several people willing to give the choice to the primary host.

I will be sending the results to Skinner so he can work his magic to put Starboard tack in as primary host.

Thank you for voting and for posting in this forum.

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