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left-of-center2012

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Thu Jul 25, 2019, 11:43 PM Jul 2019

Think Legroom on Planes is Bad Now? And It's Going to Get Worse

Air travel is becoming a test of physical endurance. Seats have shrunk, legroom has vanished -- and the airlines aren’t done with you yet.

Cebu Air Inc., the Philippines’ biggest budget carrier, last month said it was moving kitchens and bathrooms on some of its new A330neos to cram in a record 460 seats, 20 more than the plane’s current maximum. It’s part of a broader push, particularly in Asia, to stuff more people into jets flying the most popular routes, according to aviation researcher Landrum & Brown.

Less legroom is now the industry norm. In the early-2000s, rows in economy used to be 34 inches (86 centimeters) to 35 inches apart; now 30 to 31 inches is typical, though 28 inches can be found on short flights, according to Washington D.C.-based advocacy group Flyers Rights. Seats have narrowed, too, from about 18.5 inches to 17 inches on average.

Where someone’s personal space starts and ends can be contentious, especially when there’s not much space to begin with. It’s no surprise that air rage most commonly occurs in economy class. Flights have been forced to make unscheduled landings because passengers were bickering over reclining seats.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-07-25/this-airline-plans-to-break-a-record-cramming-flyers-into-jets?srnd=premium

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Think Legroom on Planes is Bad Now? And It's Going to Get Worse (Original Post) left-of-center2012 Jul 2019 OP
First I've heard of Flyers Rights group. What are they doing? Obviously nothing. YOHABLO Jul 2019 #1
The last time we flew we took short hops. LA to Denver, Denver to St Louis, St Luis to Dayton. wasupaloopa Jul 2019 #2
Wait until this happens... TreasonousBastard Jul 2019 #3
 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
1. First I've heard of Flyers Rights group. What are they doing? Obviously nothing.
Thu Jul 25, 2019, 11:56 PM
Jul 2019

For safety alone, cramming people into such tight spaces is dangerous. It is getting ridiculous. How much more are we willing to allow them to get by with? Regulations must be in place. (ha ha ha ha ) with the Republicans in power that will never happen.

 

wasupaloopa

(4,516 posts)
2. The last time we flew we took short hops. LA to Denver, Denver to St Louis, St Luis to Dayton.
Fri Jul 26, 2019, 12:01 AM
Jul 2019

Each leg was in a MD80 a small plane which has plenty of leg room. A non stop would put us in a 767 or something with no leg room and tiny seats.

I may have the plane types wrong, I don’t fly much.

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