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KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 12:29 PM Sep 2012

What the BART map should have looked like

the original plan from 1956.



I'd be a LOT happier down here in San Jose if it were "on the map". Yes, we're getting one station in 2018 (the Berryessa one on the map; I'm right near Fruitdale), or so they say, but it's just not the same.

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What the BART map should have looked like (Original Post) KamaAina Sep 2012 OP
I heard that people in marin didn't want the riff-raff coming North. RandySF Sep 2012 #1
Same old story KamaAina Sep 2012 #3
Actually, they never got a chance to vote against it CreekDog Sep 2012 #4
Gosh, wouldn't that be nice. NV Whino Sep 2012 #2
OMG, it would have gone to Napa! Nictuku Sep 2012 #5
what you see is a more "urban" and short trip focused system than what we have CreekDog Sep 2012 #6

RandySF

(70,636 posts)
1. I heard that people in marin didn't want the riff-raff coming North.
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 12:32 PM
Sep 2012

I have a job interview in San Rafael today. I have to take BART to Richmond and then board a Golden Gate bus.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
3. Same old story
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 12:41 PM
Sep 2012

that's why DC Metro doesn't go to Georgetown, and Atlanta MARTA doesn't go to Cobb Co. (Newt country).

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
4. Actually, they never got a chance to vote against it
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 12:53 PM
Sep 2012

the planners only included the counties they thought they could win, and apparently they needed 60% of the vote in those.

the counties not included didn't actually get to vote. i think the requirement to establish the BART district had to have a certain level of support throughout the intended district.

anywhere they thought would reduce their margin was excluded, even though a majority in those counties (San Mateo, Santa Clara and Marin) might have supported the measure.

Nictuku

(3,864 posts)
5. OMG, it would have gone to Napa!
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 12:57 PM
Sep 2012

I currently drive Napa (closer to Lake Berryessa) to SF daily for work. 1.5 hours to get to work, 2.75 hours to get home. It is killing me. If I could take BART instead..... my life would be so much easier.

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
6. what you see is a more "urban" and short trip focused system than what we have
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 12:58 PM
Sep 2012

the first impression most people get looking at this map is that BART goes farther out --and it would have.

but it's more than that.

BART becomes a more comprehensive urban system with it's Geary Street and Sunset District lines (if these existed today, it would probably increase BART ridership by 50%, since Geary Street bus ridership is astronomical and the N-Judah (to the Sunset district) is the busiest streetcar line).

Not to mention the North Beach line, connected to the Third Street line, which is ironic in that the Third Street MUNI metro line was just completed a few years ago, the Chinatown subway is being built now and will include some tunneling through North Beach, but no completed subway there yet. Oh, imagine if BART had been built this way, we'd have had for decades now, what we are only beginning to build now.

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