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Veganism is a "crazy new diet" as per Food & Wine (Original Post) obamanut2012 Jan 2012 OP
Evidence of a highly ignorant reporter? Jackpine Radical Jan 2012 #1
New to you zipplewrath Jan 2012 #2
I guess I just see veganism as pretty mainstream now obamanut2012 Jan 2012 #3
Veggie yes zipplewrath Jan 2012 #4
Vegan for two years, here. Never, ever going back. byronius Jan 2012 #5
Allergies can be a powerful incentive zipplewrath Jan 2012 #6
*cough* bullshit flvegan Feb 2012 #7
Not exactly sure your beef zipplewrath Feb 2012 #8
This is the Vegetarian & Vegan Group obamanut2012 Feb 2012 #9
Yes, it is zipplewrath Feb 2012 #10
"Personal experience" and flvegan Feb 2012 #12
Wow zipplewrath Feb 2012 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author flvegan Feb 2012 #11

zipplewrath

(16,692 posts)
2. New to you
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 12:52 PM
Jan 2012

Don't blame an author for the head line, it's usually written by someone else.

The "new" is "new" to the reader. i.e. someone looking for a "new" diet for themselves, here are the "craziest" ones.

There's only about one on that list that is particularly crazy. The rest are just common variations on general themes of eating better, eating less sugar, eating more veggies.

zipplewrath

(16,692 posts)
4. Veggie yes
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 01:55 PM
Jan 2012

Vegan, not so much. Unless what you mean is that vegans are "well known". Actual vegans are relatively "rare" with respect to the total population. Truth is, I've known alot of vegans, but they don't stay vegan long. 9 months is common. It just gets too hard, socially speaking. But it is true, everyone knows what a vegan is these days, at least generally speaking.

byronius

(7,598 posts)
5. Vegan for two years, here. Never, ever going back.
Tue Jan 31, 2012, 01:56 PM
Jan 2012

I obviously had some sort of dairy allergy. I've never felt so good in my adult life.

It's weird. Food tastes better. I feel psychologically more stable. I rebound more quickly from exercise.

A friend talked me into trying it. Now -- I'm One Of Them. Permanently.

Lost thirty-five pounds in the bargain.

"It just gets too hard, socially speaking." -- Ah, the power of the herd to shame and ostracize. That has never been an issue for me.

I'm my own person.

zipplewrath

(16,692 posts)
6. Allergies can be a powerful incentive
Tue Jan 31, 2012, 03:40 PM
Jan 2012

I have a friend that has identified a glucose intolerance. Feels much better now that he understands. He does continue to try to find those "substitutes" for old favorites.

The "socially speaking" part is mere that food is a part of socializing and when the vast majority of people use non-vegan ingredients, it is hard to maintain the diet. It doesn't really have anything to do with "shaming", it's just that an awful lot of restaurants won't necessarily be able to support it. And going to a friends home is even harder if they are aware of the restrictions.

flvegan

(64,592 posts)
7. *cough* bullshit
Wed Feb 1, 2012, 12:42 AM
Feb 2012

Welcome to the Tofu Ghetto.

If you have any sort of nutritional background to back up that tripe, I'd be happy to hear it. Please be very specific.

I'm especially taken with your "9 month" vegan being common. Please, do back that up poster. You're whole self-destructive negation of your final sentence in regards to your first.

zipplewrath

(16,692 posts)
8. Not exactly sure your beef
Wed Feb 1, 2012, 12:00 PM
Feb 2012

Excuse the pun of course.

I think all I was saying was that vegan doesn't consititute any large percentage of the total population (over 20% or so). I was also suggesting that the number may be largest if considering the percentage at any particular time, but that the population is constantly gaining, and losing, membership. I guess I don't see the great controversy in that suggestion. It certain aligns with my personal experience.

As for the 9 month, that's just a personal experience, although I'd suspect it isn't that far off for much of the "transient" population that experiments with vegan for a period of time. The proportion of the population that has truly sustained a vegan diet for more than 5 years would be quite small, on the order of single digit percentages I'd guess. Are you suggesting it is otherwise (on more than a regional basis that is)?

And this wouldn't make it particularly different from any other dietary choices. Very few people "stick" to a single dietary philosophy for extended periods of time, unless you include basically the "I don't pay attention at all" crowd.

zipplewrath

(16,692 posts)
10. Yes, it is
Wed Feb 1, 2012, 04:23 PM
Feb 2012

But the OP was about an article that was decidedly NOT in any such forum, and as such should probably considered in THAT context, which is exactly what I did.

flvegan

(64,592 posts)
12. "Personal experience" and
Thu Feb 2, 2012, 12:55 AM
Feb 2012

"personal experience" though you suspect this that or the other regardless of what you know or have to back it up?

And your last paragraph? Laughable.

I'm done with this one. Next?

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