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Pinback

(12,884 posts)
Tue Jul 18, 2023, 04:17 PM Jul 2023

A Meatless Diet Is Better for You--And the Planet

- Scientific American, July 14, 2023

A Meatless Diet Is Better for You—And the Planet
Vegetarian and especially vegan diets can promote better health, help mitigate climate change and reduce inhumane factory farming

The idea that we need to eat meat to get enough protein and iron, a false assumption of some Paleo diet acolytes (https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/guest-blog/human-ancestors-were-nearly-all-vegetarians/), is a common misconception. It ignores the abundance of protein and iron in many plant-based foods such as nuts, seeds and legumes. Similarly, consuming dairy is not necessary to obtain adequate dietary calcium, as this mineral is abundant in soy, lentils, beans, nuts, seeds, grains, leafy greens and cruciferous vegetables.

Likewise, while we typically associate omega-3 fatty acids with fish, fish themselves incorporate these into their tissue by eating algae and seaweed, which we can consume directly without the concerns of exposure to accumulated mercury and microplastics in fish flesh. Indeed, a whole-food, plant-based diet can provide all essential nutrients except for vitamin B12, which is made by bacteria in soil and ingested by animals, thereby incorporated into their tissue, milk, and eggs. While modern sanitation allows humans to consume clean produce uncontaminated by dirt or feces, we can easily and cheaply obtain oral B12 supplements.

Furthermore, significantly reducing our consumption of meat would carry vast benefits. As cardiovascular disease remains the leading cause of death around the world, poor diet has now surpassed tobacco smoking as the top risk factor for death in the U.S, where life expectancy has now stagnated, in large part because of a plateau in mortality from cardiovascular disease. Eating highly processed foods and red meat has been repeatedly demonstrated to promote underlying mechanisms of cancer and cardiovascular disease, such as inflammation and damage to the lining of blood vessels.

Mounting evidence points to the benefits of a whole-food, plant-based diet. A meta-analysis of scientific studies from 2017 found that a vegetarian diet is associated with a 25 percent relative risk reduction for coronary heart disease and an 8 percent relative risk reduction for cancer, with a vegan diet conferring a 15 percent relative risk reduction for cancer. The World Health Organization (WHO) has classified processed meat as carcinogenic, and (unprocessed) red meat as probably carcinogenic to humans. Finally, randomized controlled trials have also demonstrated the benefits of a Mediterranean diet (essentially a whole-food, plant-predominant diet) in both the primary and secondary prevention of cardiovascular disease, with enhanced benefits from greater adherence to a provegetarian (more plant-based) dietary pattern.
- More at link: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/a-meatless-diet-is-better-for-you-and-the-planet/

Note: This is an opinion piece by By Sarah C. Hull, assistant professor of medicine (cardiology) at the Yale School of Medicine, where she also serves as associate director of the Program for Biomedical Ethics.
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A Meatless Diet Is Better for You--And the Planet (Original Post) Pinback Jul 2023 OP
Even small changes are good - cilla4progress Jul 2023 #1
If everyone ate vegetarian or vegan one day a week it would change a lot Merlot Jul 2023 #2
There are plenty of vegan entrees that are filling and tasty DBoon Jul 2023 #11
I tried a couple of those Imposible Burgers last week. I cooked them on my George Foreman grill doc03 Jul 2023 #3
We love them! cilla4progress Jul 2023 #4
I sometimes eat the Boca burgers or Morningstar Farms ones, they are OK doc03 Jul 2023 #7
Guess it's personal taste! cilla4progress Jul 2023 #8
Yes, I agree milestogo Jul 2023 #21
Eat the real burger zeusdogmom Jul 2023 #6
It's all pros and cons. cilla4progress Jul 2023 #9
I prefer veg burgers that taste like they came from a plant DBoon Jul 2023 #10
I am eating much less red meat. I am also having a plant based lunch FAR more frequently. OrlandoDem2 Jul 2023 #5
Almond milk is good but it wastes a lot of water Waterguy Jul 2023 #19
As I get older, I eat less red meat and when I do usually ground beef but usually only walkingman Jul 2023 #12
And some super powerful animals are vegetarian. GreenWave Jul 2023 #13
It may be better for me, but I don't eat a particular food because it's better for me. patphil Jul 2023 #14
Yes but that's exactly the predicament. milestogo Jul 2023 #22
When I was in my early 20's (I'm a geezer now) my girlfriends mother had to be checked every month mitch96 Jul 2023 #15
Wow. Pinback Jul 2023 #16
" fruits, vegetables, grains, nuts, and seeds" I'm basically in the same direction. mitch96 Jul 2023 #17
been meatless for several years now - I don't miss meat Waterguy Jul 2023 #18
Yep, for us it was a slow transition, and we still consume a small amount of meat. Pinback Jul 2023 #20

cilla4progress

(25,901 posts)
1. Even small changes are good -
Tue Jul 18, 2023, 04:19 PM
Jul 2023

substituting some vegan foods for animal products.

Don't have to go whole hog.

Oooops... 😳

Merlot

(9,696 posts)
2. If everyone ate vegetarian or vegan one day a week it would change a lot
Tue Jul 18, 2023, 04:23 PM
Jul 2023

Meat consumption going down by 1/7th would be a good start.

Shh, don't tell the meat industry and factory farmers about this nefarious idea. Didn't they sue Oprah for even suggestion to not eat meat?

DBoon

(23,052 posts)
11. There are plenty of vegan entrees that are filling and tasty
Tue Jul 18, 2023, 04:56 PM
Jul 2023

Having a vegan day of the week could be a treat and not a sacrifice.

doc03

(36,695 posts)
3. I tried a couple of those Imposible Burgers last week. I cooked them on my George Foreman grill
Tue Jul 18, 2023, 04:27 PM
Jul 2023

the plastic tray to catch the drippings was half full of some kind of oil. That oil or whatever it is was like
synthetic motor oil. I washed the grill plates three times and still couldn't break it up. I couldn't even get the
grease off my hands. The burger was dry and had no flavor, so much for that experiment. I don't eat
beef that often but I will stick to real meat when I do.

doc03

(36,695 posts)
7. I sometimes eat the Boca burgers or Morningstar Farms ones, they are OK
Tue Jul 18, 2023, 04:38 PM
Jul 2023

no grease and they taste OK.

zeusdogmom

(1,047 posts)
6. Eat the real burger
Tue Jul 18, 2023, 04:36 PM
Jul 2023

Processed food - and impossible burgers is a processed food - is not the best thing for our bodies

DBoon

(23,052 posts)
10. I prefer veg burgers that taste like they came from a plant
Tue Jul 18, 2023, 04:54 PM
Jul 2023

Ersatz meat doesn't do it for me.

OrlandoDem2

(2,270 posts)
5. I am eating much less red meat. I am also having a plant based lunch FAR more frequently.
Tue Jul 18, 2023, 04:34 PM
Jul 2023

We are using more oat and almond milk than ever.

EVERYONE need to do their part to save this planet. It’s the only one that we have!

I want my kids to have a future with snow, polar ice caps, and cold weather. I don’t want this planet to burn!

Waterguy

(258 posts)
19. Almond milk is good but it wastes a lot of water
Thu Jul 27, 2023, 05:42 PM
Jul 2023

It takes a substantial amount of water to produce almonds. So I would recommend oat or other milk alternatives.
I don't use milk much myself but I do like cheese.
I have still been using real cheese, from cow and goats milk, but I did have cheese a friend made with nuts and a few different ingredients that was fantastic - sorry I don't have the recipe.

walkingman

(8,332 posts)
12. As I get older, I eat less red meat and when I do usually ground beef but usually only
Tue Jul 18, 2023, 05:02 PM
Jul 2023

about twice a month in various dishes. I never planned it but I noticed that I just don't digest red meat well at all. It makes me feel bloated. I much prefer chicken or pork but mostly chicken. It just tastes better to me.

For the sake of our planet I think we will have to change our ways.....

GreenWave

(9,167 posts)
13. And some super powerful animals are vegetarian.
Tue Jul 18, 2023, 05:16 PM
Jul 2023

Bull!
Rhino!
Kangaroo!
Giraffe!
Brontosaurus!
and the biggest of them all on land (so far!)
Argentinosaurus!

patphil

(6,941 posts)
14. It may be better for me, but I don't eat a particular food because it's better for me.
Tue Jul 18, 2023, 05:37 PM
Jul 2023

I eat for flavor, and satisfaction.
For me, it's the difference between living and simply existing.
I respect that others feel differently, but I want the real thing.

milestogo

(17,790 posts)
22. Yes but that's exactly the predicament.
Fri Jul 28, 2023, 08:57 PM
Jul 2023

We aren't going to exist at all if we don't move away from factory farming. What food we eat is no longer a matter of personal taste; now its about the survival of the planet.

mitch96

(14,651 posts)
15. When I was in my early 20's (I'm a geezer now) my girlfriends mother had to be checked every month
Tue Jul 18, 2023, 08:31 PM
Jul 2023

or so for cervical cancer. Her daughter also. It seems she was given Diethylstilbestrol (DES) to control premature birth and morning sickness.
They both got cancer but it was resolved.
So with this knowledge I'm riding to work one day and I hear the cows in the feed lots are being given diethylstilbestrol to enhance growth.. Hummm
My Mom did not raise no dummy... Give DES to humans and they get cancer.
Give DES to cows that people eat? Ahhh no, not for me. Needless to say I don't eat red meat very often if at all. I'm not a full blown vegan and I dip my toes into the pool every once in a while but I mainly eat veg. Works for me.
BTW DES has been banned from the feed lots since 1972..
m

Pinback

(12,884 posts)
16. Wow.
Tue Jul 18, 2023, 08:42 PM
Jul 2023

Fellow geezer here. I’m not religious about diet but eat about 90 percent fruits, vegetables, grains, nuts, and seeds. The proof is in my annual checkup results, my energy level, and pants size.

In my younger years, I used to consume lots of garbage, without a care in the world, including plenty of saturated fats, simple carbohydrates, and not much fiber. I finally got around to getting an “annual” physical one year, and the doctor wanted to put me on a statin prescription.

I said No Way Jose and immediately adopted a healthier diet plus moderate exercise. Results were vastly improved in a month, and I’ve been able to keep it that way for years.

Plenty of delicious options without the need for processed foods or animal products at every meal.

mitch96

(14,651 posts)
17. " fruits, vegetables, grains, nuts, and seeds" I'm basically in the same direction.
Tue Jul 18, 2023, 10:14 PM
Jul 2023

A while back a nutrition centered MD mentioned the acronym "G.B.O.M.S" to help remember what to eat. Greens, grains, Beans, berries, fruits, Onions, Mushrooms, Seeds and nuts.
I try to eat a little of each every day. Eat whole foods, mostly veg, not too much..
m

Waterguy

(258 posts)
18. been meatless for several years now - I don't miss meat
Thu Jul 27, 2023, 05:34 PM
Jul 2023

With a little bit of creativity you can make great meatless meals and pretty soon you don't miss meat at all.
I'll never go back.

Pinback

(12,884 posts)
20. Yep, for us it was a slow transition, and we still consume a small amount of meat.
Thu Jul 27, 2023, 05:44 PM
Jul 2023

When my wife and I first decided to cut way back on meat, we ate a lot of cheese (to get that satisfying wad of fat that comes with a carnivorous gut-bomb, I guess). When you've been conditioned your whole life that a "good meal" is one that leaves you feeling suffused with saturated fat, it's a new experience to have a leaner lipid profile.

When I started getting alarming results from my annual checkup blood work, I realized it was time to quit kidding myself. I'm to the point now where a meal of lentils, seaweed salad, chickpeas, dates, and quinoa (as I had for lunch) is both delicious and satisfying. So glad to have made the transition many years ago. I kind of like living, and would like to keep doing it for two or three more decades.

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