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TexasTowelie

(116,556 posts) Tue Jul 16, 2024, 01:47 PM Jul 2024

Why is the Russian Military "Abandoning" Kaliningrad? - Paul Warburg

Russia has made some very interesting moves around Kaliningrad lately, all of which reveal that the beliefs of Vladimir Putin and Kremlin leadership about the current state of the world don't quite match up to what they say in public.

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Why is the Russian Military "Abandoning" Kaliningrad? - Paul Warburg (Original Post) TexasTowelie Jul 2024 OP

I had never heard of Kaliningrad. Interesting history. Captured by Russia at the end of WWII, Germans expelled, Martin68 Jul 2024 #1

"Soviet citizens moved in to populate it" This is a ruzzian technique that has been used for a hundred years. mitch96 Jul 2024 #3

Yes. We've seen this more recently in Georgia and Crimea. The Nazis did the same. Martin68 Jul 2024 #4

"The Nazis did the same." Ahh yes, the infamous Lebensraum or living space.. We need your land Poland/Czechia mitch96 Jul 2024 #5

Also known as Koenigsberg Metaphorical Jul 2024 #2

Martin68

(24,524 posts)

1. I had never heard of Kaliningrad. Interesting history. Captured by Russia at the end of WWII, Germans expelled,

Reply to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Tue Jul 16, 2024, 02:16 PM

Jul 2024

Soviet citizens moved in to populate it. A weird relic of the Soviet empire, with no historical relationship to Russia until it was invaded in 1945. There was a flurry of articles on the enclave's strategic significance from NATO's perspective in 2022, but not much since then.

mitch96

(14,618 posts)

3. "Soviet citizens moved in to populate it" This is a ruzzian technique that has been used for a hundred years.

Reply to Martin68 (Reply #1)

Tue Jul 16, 2024, 04:41 PM

Jul 2024

conquer, kill it's occupants and then repopulate it with ruzzians...
Started way back when with Ivan the Terrible I think.
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Martin68

(24,524 posts)

4. Yes. We've seen this more recently in Georgia and Crimea. The Nazis did the same.

Reply to mitch96 (Reply #3)

Tue Jul 16, 2024, 08:30 PM

Jul 2024

mitch96

(14,618 posts)

5. "The Nazis did the same." Ahh yes, the infamous Lebensraum or living space.. We need your land Poland/Czechia

Reply to Martin68 (Reply #4)

Wed Jul 17, 2024, 09:38 AM

Jul 2024

so we will just TAKE IT... After all they speak German so they MUST belong to us..

Same with ruzzian in the Donbas. Speak ruzzian? you belong to ruzzia, da?
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Metaphorical

(2,302 posts)

2. Also known as Koenigsberg

Reply to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Tue Jul 16, 2024, 04:16 PM

Jul 2024

It used to be the capital of Prussia, and is known at least partially through the seven bridges problem proposed and solved by the mathematician Leonhardt Euler in the 18th century. In 1945, the Soviet Union swept through the Baltic states and Poland, encompassing Koenigsberg and renaming it Kalinigrad. When the Berlin Wall fell and the Baltic States declared for the West, the Russians continued to claim Kaliningrad, primarily for its access to the North Sea.

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