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EXCLUSIVE: Outrage as EU claims diplomatic immunity after using OUR aid money to 'meddle in the Middle East' by building on disputed West Bank landAn Israeli NGO launched legal action after photographing EU flags flying above buildings on land placed under Israeli jurisdiction by the Oslo Accords, to which the EU is a signatory. EU bureaucrats are avoiding court by citing diplomatic rules.
The buildings, which are given to Palestinians, are intended to 'pave the way' for more land to be brought under Palestinian control, according to official EU papers. Many are bulldozed by Israel only for the EU to repeatedly rebuild them, generating more costs for the taxpayer.
Leaked documents obtained by MailOnline show that the EU which receives £350million per week from Britain is using diplomatic rules to place officials above the law, foiling attempts to hold bureaucrats accountable.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3480561/Outrage-EU-claims-diplomatic-immunity-using-aid-money-meddle-Middle-East-building-disputed-West-Bank-land.html#ixzz42yXpRzzf
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4Q2u2
(1,406 posts)is an angry electorate. An ignorant populace is a blissful one. Why tell anyone that you are ignoring International Law and Treaties with their money when "you know in your heart that you are doing the right thing."
Israel BAD
Palestinians never BAD
See how easy life is.
Now please pipe down, we here at DU are much toooooooooooo busy slinging shit at each other for a real discussion of hard topics.
yourpaljoey
(2,166 posts)The world is
finally coming alive.
Why is the EU
siding with Palestine?
Why is BDS catching on
around the world.
(Sure we have had our set backs but
we are determined to make it count...
and it is.)
People are waking up.
The next step is to cut all military aid.
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King_David
(14,851 posts)And has no support among any Democratic Party candidates and not the majority of Democrats and nor any Democrats in congress.
Are you sure you support the Democratic Party? Because sure as hell the Democratic Party does not support the bigoted Jew hating and often homophobic BDS movement.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1134&pid=125462
grossproffit
(5,591 posts)Almost forgot this one.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)The VAST majority of Americans don't give a shit about a people who continually vote in thoroughly corrupt leaders and terrorists. You'll never get the Americans to cut military aid as long as those "leaders" call for Israeli and Jewish blood. BDS is nothing but anti semitic bullshit and Americans aren't fooled by them for one minute.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)the UK is having a referendum on whether or not it should remain part of the EU , it is based in part on xenophobia and strongly being advanced by rightists in the UK , this is an attempt to use a situation that has existed for years to work up outrage
King_David
(14,851 posts)This IP debate is very complex... Basic faulty analysis you've been providing with basement variety debate and "debunking " is not easy for most people's...
This IP debate is not for beginners...
FBaggins
(27,441 posts)After months of spinning the same poll over and over by claiming that it doesn't matter that liberals overwhelmingly support Israel over the Palestinians because conservative support is even more overwhelming, and therefore support for Israel is really a conservative position... you expected something more than "it doesn't matter that this OP discusses something that is factually accurate, because it comes from a source in a country that is potentially uninterested in remaining in a union with other countries and I think that's the conservatives too!"
???
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)centrists support/sympathy for Israel doesn't matter, what I've pointed out is the fact that as the poll itself reveals Republicans support Israel at a higher rate like 53% D to 79% R. Any other claim about what I've said is spin, for what reason I'll leave to others to imagine
shira
(30,109 posts)In fact, what they're doing is a colonial endeavor.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)it was to be for 5 years, that 22 years ago
shira
(30,109 posts)But nice try.
King_David
(14,851 posts)LOL
Everyone else besides you seems capable of reading polls...
And that poll shows that way more than double the amount of democrats support Israel over the Palestinians than those that support Palestinians over Israel - a measly 23%.
And that only 23% of Democrats support Palestinians....
Got it ?
Understanding IP is not for beginners.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)King_David
(14,851 posts)Majority of Democrats support Israel
Tiny minority of Democrats support Palestinians over Israel
BDS organization is bigoted and not the values of our party.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)King_David
(14,851 posts)And that numbers growing.
A tiny minority of Democrats support the Palestinians over Israel a teeny tiny 23% and that number is not moving at all.
BDS bigotry Antisemitism or antiZionism and often homophobia is probably not supported by Demorats at all ( except for 15-20 or so on this DU) but is supported by extremists on the Left as well as extremists on the Right.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)Showing how the VAST majority of Americans sympathize with Israel having to deal with thoroughly corrupt or terrorist leaders of the Palestinians. And once again showing the pathetically small percentage that don't.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)about to have a referendum on whether or not the UK remains part of the EU
oh and about debunking do you mean this ?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1134125965#post29
shira
(30,109 posts)That's EU colonialism BTW.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)can not build for the Palestinians in the West Bank-BTW Israel's rule over Area C was only to be for 5 years according to Oslo
shira
(30,109 posts)Oslo is still binding.
Otherwise the PA gets dismantled & doesn't get paid anymore. The PA no longer rules anything at all in the W.Bank. All security operations (along with economic and civil ties) with Israel end. Israel could take over the entire W.Bank if Oslo expired. This would've all happened just 5 years after the Oslo Accords were signed.
I expect you won't repeat that silliness again.
Besides, if you think you're right then point me to a legit article, not a blog post, that argues Oslo expired after 5 years and is non-binding for both sides. Show proof. Any proof.
Pretty please?
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)Little Tich
(6,171 posts)Israel is trying to expel Palestinians living in Area C, which is against international law. The EU is just trying to give Palestinians already living in these areas access to basic necessities, like water, electricity and a roof over their heads. Israel is explicitly denying these people access to basic necessities, even though Israel has full civilian jurisdiction over Area C, and is responsible for all civilians there, not only Israelis. According to John Kerry, Israel awarded only a single building permit for Palestinians living in Area C in 2014. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Bank_Areas_in_the_Oslo_II_Accord) There are around 300.000 Palestinians living in Area C. What the EU is doing isn't remotely illegal, it's humanitarian aid.
Israel clamping down on illegal EU building in West Bank
Source: Times of Israel, February 4, 2016
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All EU activity in the West Bank was fully in line with international humanitarian law and formed part of efforts to promote economic development and improve the quality of life of Palestinian communities in Area C in the private sector, the environment and agriculture, said the statement.
The EU worked with the Palestinian Authority to develop Area C and support the Palestinian presence there and consulted with the Israeli authorities where necessary, the statement added.
Israel has overall security and administrative responsibility in Area C, the EU Mission went on, but international law also obliges it to protect and facilitate development for the local population and to grant unimpeded access for humanitarian assistance.
Read more: http://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-clamping-down-on-illegal-eu-building-in-west-bank/
Regavim is a right-wing extremist organization that tries to evict non-Jews living in areas considered to be Jewish in both Israel and the occupied territories:
Regavim
Source: Wikipedia
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Read more: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regavim_(NGO)