All these accusations, all these examples, over all those years. It could be a racist meme, of course.

But we aren't talking about normal people here, normal israeli citizens. Those settlers are religious fanatics who don't mind whether they have to kill to restore Israel or whether they die.
Those people burn down palestinian groves.
Those people steal land.
Those people lynch Palestinians.
I read an interview about 1-2 years ago where such a settler, a mother, was asked whether she's not afraid about her children playing in this dangerous environment, between razor-wire and stuff. She said that she wasn't afraid for her children, because if they were to die they would have died for God's cause.

These are religious fanatics and I have yet to see an act of malice that is beyond the pale for a religious fanatic.

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Imagine writing a history-book in the year 2050. Looking back, how did peace come to Israel?

Please draw me a possible route of incidents from Israel's current policies and current situation of occupation and settlements to a peaceful outcome.

I know after you appeared to endorse one , now you want to change the topic and have me write an essay on Israeli / Jewish and Palestinian/ Muslim peace and understanding?

Really?

But obviously the topic is not "conspiracy-theories about Israel" but "conspiracy-theories against Jews". My apologies for going off-topic.

And not 1 video or picture.

I'm with you on religious fanatics, but all these accusations with no proof goes to show something's very wrong here.

The false accusations should make you wonder why they're being made in the first place. If things are so bad, there should be enough evidence so that lies are unnecessary.

Do you really believe that ?

There are plenty videos and pictures ......see :

http://rhr.org.il/eng/?s=olive+trees&submit.x=0&submit.y=0&submit=Go

http://www.btselem.org/search/google_cse_adv/olive%20trees

http://972mag.com/?s=olive+trees

What makes you think that those that assassinated a Prime Minister and burnt a family alive in their beds would hesitate to harm olive trees ????

....of destroying an olive tree. Apparently it's happened so many times over the years, to thousands of trees, that there should be evidence of settlers caught in the act of doing it.

Show me.

The settlers themselves are open about what they see as their duty to stop Palestinians from harvesting olives. Here's two videos....

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And I don't doubt for a moment they've done destructive, evil things. I just don't believe every single accusation like you do. I have reason to doubt some of the claims (including libels like poisoning the wells, aphrodisiac gum...). Only Jew haters believe antisemites who make constant false accusations against Jews.

It's basically impossible for settlers to destroy hundreds or thousands of olive trees without getting caught in the act. If you know the 1st thing about olive trees, they're kinda difficult to destroy. Simply pruning the branches takes a helluva long time. Uprooting or destroying the trunks is a GINORMOUS task. So yeah, if the claim is settlers destroy 10 trees - okay - but 450 or 1000? No fucking way.

What's also dubious is that so many claims against these settlers are made on Saturdays (the Jewish Sabbath). While it's not impossible, it's HIGHLY unlikely these religious fanatics would go to town "working" on the Sabbath.

Now here's the catch:
PALESTINIANS have been caught on camera destroying their own olive trees but SETTLERS have not. And there's a reason Palestinians would do so....

http://israelstreet.org/the-great-olive-tree-hoax/
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2012/10/16/did-palestinians-destroy-their-own-olive-trees-and-then-blame-israel-settlers-say-they-have-the-video-to-prove-it/
http://www.rosenblit.com/big_lie.htm

Finally, let's remember it's the ridiculously antisemitic ISM (FreeGaza, Alison Weir, Greta Berlin, Gilad Atzmon) that is almost always involved in these accusations. The very same racist ISM that you've supported for years. In a post above this one, I pointed out an article by the ISM's Joe Catron who calls for Hezbollah bombing Tel Aviv. While you may take every word for granted from these Jew haters, I can assure you that decent people do not, and are repulsed by that kind of hate.

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If the accusations were that 10 or 20 trees were destroyed at one time, that's believable. It's impossible for 450-1000 trees to be destroyed in a short period of time without any witnesses to that destruction.

From their homepage: 'In memory of my martyred friends and mentors, Rabbi Meir Kahane and Rabbi Binyamin Kahane. HaShem Yinkom Dameihem (May God Avenge Their Bloods)'

Charming....

Here's the thing. The damage and destruction of olive trees has been a long-term issue, so much so that Ariel Sharon spoke out against it a long time ago and put the blame where it belongs, on extremist settlers.

I watched that video and all I could make out was that a settler was filming unidentifiable people doing something to a tree. I've got no idea who they are, and no-one in their right mind who wasn't the sort of person to defend extremist settlers would just take their word for it.

Even if it was what the settler said it was, how does that make it that you doubt most, if not all incidents of settlers damaging and destroying trees? Is that also yr attitude towards rape accusations? After all, a small percentage of reported rapes in the US turn out to be false accusations and some misogynists use that to argue that most rape accusations are false.

Also, lots of human rights groups have reported on incidents. I don't know where you get the idea that it all comes from one group. Probably the same place you get the idea that I support the ISM. I don't hate them with a frothing, bubbling, intense and manic hatred, but neither do I support them. I don't really support anything. I used to support Amnesty International, but I hit a financial bump and had to stop my donations, so that's as close to supporting a group as I get...

btw, knock off the nonsense about me taking the word of Jew haters for granted. That's fucking nasty bullshit. If yr going to get straight into inventing things like that, I'll doubly return the favour. So, from this point on, keep things civil and let me tell you what I think and what I agree or disagree with, not the other way round. That way things will be breezy, okay?

Carry on....

.....yet some do

" Like you pointed out, the extremists have no qualms in carrying out even worse violence than damaging and destroying trees, so I'm not sure why anyone would try to portray them as innocent victims of a smear campaign. "

I'm sure ...someone who believes in a Greater Israel ....someone who calls The Wild West Bank by its religious terminology of Judea and Samaria would .

1. There probably have been isolated incidents of well contamination. Is this policy? No. But it's easy to generalize and say "Israelis are doing this" and have that understood to mean "As a rule, Israelis are doing this" or "Israelis habitually do this in general." It's a fallacy of overgeneralization.

2. The report usually cited also includes examples of settlements where the sewage isn't treated and flows back down onto Israeli-cultivated lands. Many of these are illegal. They're not policy, they're not removed. They're a problem for all sides, and the government is, by and large, hamstrung.

3. The same report that's considered authoritative when it suits activists also found that the vast majority of well and groundwater pollution from untreated sewage results not from Israeli settlements but Palestinian villages without treatment plants or with broken treatment plants. This parallels the problems in Gaza, in which most of the problem is locally produced but only the part of the problem that can be attributed to Israelis really matters. We focus on a small part of the issue because they're outsiders and enemies instead of fixing most of the problem by owning up to their own responsibility. It's self-serving but ultimately just hurts the locals more than it hurts the enemy.

A lot of politics is the same. Brexit, for example. A lot of US politics. Nasty, that sort of principled non-self-reflexion.

Ben-Gurion U. leadership says IDF-critiquing NGO beyond the pale of ‘national consensus’

http://www.timesofisrael.com/israeli-university-halts-prize-to-breaking-the-silence/

Source: Haaretz, Jun 28, 2016

It's possible that it's only hearsay, and if the water was indeed poisoned it's not certain that settlers did it. Palestinians aren't allowed to have normal plumbing and Israel restricts their water allocation to below WHO minimum standards, so there are many other possible causes. If BTS made an official claim that the water was poisoned, it would most probably be true, as BTS has always been right before, which is one of the main reasons why people believe them.

It's however a bit scary is that you use a fascist organization like Im Tirtzu as a source.


Im Tirtzu
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

.....while Rabbi Dov Lior gets a free pass

A Racist, Messianic Rabbi Is the Ruler of Israel

Rabbi of Kiryat Arba municipality, Dov Lior, returned from questioning on charges of incitement after publishing his approval of a book discussing when it is acceptable to kill non-Jews under Halacha, to his well-paid position and teaching at Nir hesder yeshiva. Without dramatic change in these matters, Israel will make all of its laws illegal.

Sefi Rachlevsky Jul 01, 2011

Source : http://www.haaretz.com/a-racist-messianic-rabbi-is-the-ruler-of-israel-1.370554

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Just curious due to your deflection to some Israeli over there who is just as bad or worse....

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I wonder why it's so difficult for supporters of BtS to admit to any wrondoing - any nasty lies that its leaders have deliberately publicized. Is it really so difficult to admit that what Shaul and Gvaryahu did was wrong & then acknowledge that BtS critics have good reason to doubt the veracity of their reports?

All this denial - this Halo Effect as if BtS can do no wrong - is like religious fanaticism. It's just as difficult or more difficult to admit BtS really fucked up as it is to admit the Church, Priests, Rabbis are capable of doing wrong...

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It's not just the founder of BtS with his centuries old antisemitic Jew hating libels...

If the accusations are made without being connected to the accused being Jewish and would've been leveled under other other circumstances where no Jews were involved, it's probably not one of those "centuries old antisemitic Jew hating libels".

To be fair, the anti-Semitic intent has not been disproven, but I would say that it's extremely unlikely that this has anything to do with anti-Semitism. Regardless, BTS has made no allegations about settlers poisoning wells, which has been pointed out by VC in this thread.

I think you've chosen poorly when you trust Im Tirtzu over BTS.