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Eugene

(62,658 posts) Tue Jul 12, 2016, 12:52 PM Jul 2016

Israeli Military Appoints Rabbi Who Appeared to Permit Rape

Source: Associated Press

Israeli Military Appoints Rabbi Who Appeared to Permit Rape

By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS JERUSALEM — Jul 12, 2016, 1:45 PM ET

The Israeli military has been criticized for appointing a rabbi who has disparaged female soldiers and once appeared to justify the rape of non-Jewish enemies.

The military says it summoned Rabbi Col. Eyal Karim on Tuesday over his past remarks after an outcry from lawmakers.

In a 2002 post on a Jewish website, Karim responded to a user asking whether Jewish law permits Israeli soldiers to rape enemy women. Karim said the Torah allowed soldiers to satisfy "evil inclinations" during wartime.

Karim later said he was not advocating rape, and the military said Tuesday that he denied ever saying that a "soldier is authorized to sexually harm a woman during war."

Opposition lawmaker Tzipi Livni told Channel 2 TV that Karim's views meant that "he cannot be the military rabbi."

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/israeli-military-appoints-rabbi-appeared-permit-rape-40523137

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Israeli Military Appoints Rabbi Who Appeared to Permit Rape (Original Post) Eugene Jul 2016 OP

Yeah, how dare they not let innuendo and misquoting affect his career. Igel Jul 2016 #1

" He's been misquoted, " ............. Israeli Jul 2016 #2

And that, of course, has zero leftynyc Jul 2016 #5

Not surprised you feel the need to defend him leftynyc..... Israeli Jul 2016 #6

You have a very strange leftynyc Jul 2016 #8

Misogynistic troglodyte. n/t Little Tich Jul 2016 #3

Well he was chosen by Lieberman .... Israeli Jul 2016 #4

Has anyone ever actually read the Bible? oberliner Jul 2016 #7

The IDF shouldn't promote medieval attitudes. Little Tich Jul 2016 #9

Igel

(36,087 posts)

1. Yeah, how dare they not let innuendo and misquoting affect his career.

Reply to Eugene (Original post)

Tue Jul 12, 2016, 03:30 PM

Jul 2016

I mean, seriously. He's been misquoted, and that has to say something about his character.

Israeli

(4,300 posts)

2. " He's been misquoted, " .............

Reply to Igel (Reply #1)

Tue Jul 12, 2016, 11:31 PM

Jul 2016

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IDF's Chief Rabbi Appointee Believes Terrorists Are 'Animals' and Gays Are 'Sick'

Colonel Eyal Karim made several contentious remarks while answering reader's questions for the religious website Kipa while he was still a civilian.

Gili Cohen Jul 12, 2016

Colonel Eyal Karim, who was appointed to the post of Chief Rabbi of the Israel Defense Forces on Monday, served as an adviser for readers of the religious website Kipa while still a civilian.

Responses he gave in 2003 to questions about rape in wartime and whether women should serve in the IDF have been at the forefront of the criticism of his appointment from Knesset members and women's groups.

Below is a sample of some of the other advice he gave on subjects ranging from terrorism to homosexuality.

Asked, for example, whether terrorists should be shown pity, he responded: "Terrorists shouldn't be treated as humans because they're 'animals.' The rule that those who are merciful to the cruel will ultimately be cruel to the merciful applies to them."

read more: http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-1.730532

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)

5. And that, of course, has zero

Reply to Israeli (Reply #2)

Thu Jul 14, 2016, 07:09 AM

Jul 2016

to do with the OP. His comments about terrorists is harsh but big fucking deal. Show sympathy for those who cut heads off and blow up children? Knock yourself out. His comments about gays are disgusting. But the misquote in the OP is pretty standard bullshit from the likely suspects.

Israeli

(4,300 posts)

6. Not surprised you feel the need to defend him leftynyc.....

Reply to leftynyc (Reply #5)

Fri Jul 15, 2016, 06:39 AM

Jul 2016

........thats okay , free speech and all that ......just as long as we have the right to express our views :...

There Is No Need for the Israeli Army Rabbinate in 2016 Israel

The remarks about rape, gay people and killing wounded terrorists by Col. Eyal Karim, the army chief rabbi-designate, exposes the world he comes from.

Uri Misgav Jul 14, 2016

The truth? It’s a good thing that Col. Eyal Karim was appointed the army’s chief rabbi. The uproar that erupted surrounding his appointment is to be welcomed. It is affording the wider public a glimpse into the intellectual world of Karim and others like him.

It’s okay to be appalled, but that in itself is not enough. This is a golden opportunity. We shouldn’t be calling for Karim’s appointment to be revoked, but rather for doing away with the army rabbinate altogether. It has become another outpost for the national ultra-Orthodox camp. Karim is not alone. There are many more like him, within the defense establishment and the future enlistees of religious Zionism that operate outside the system but rub shoulders with and feed it (the hesder yeshivas and pre-army academies).

Grown, educated men, who hold senior ranks or influential teaching positions, who most seriously and learnedly consider such weighty questions as: Is it permissible for soldiers to rape good-looking non-Jewish women in wartime?; is it permissible to kill a wounded terrorist?; are homosexuals sick people?; is it permissible for a soldier to leave a ceremony at which women are singing?; why shouldn’t women be permitted to testify in a rabbinical court, or to enlist?

Contrary to the claim of the settler right, which as usual has launched a very organized counterattack (while wailing about the “campaign” against it), these are not just theoretical, academic inquiries, but a way of life. Life according to religious laws that were composed thousands of years ago and never updated.

read more: http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-1.730986