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geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
Fri Dec 23, 2016, 10:20 PM Dec 2016

White House: Netanyahus choices led to anti-settlement UN resolution

http://www.timesofisrael.com/white-house-netanyahus-choices-led-to-anti-settlement-un-resolution/

“Netanyahu had the opportunity to pursue policies that would have led to a different outcome today,” Rhodes said on a media conference call Friday, after citing US governmental figures on settlement growth in the West Bank and mentioning the Israeli premier’s past statements on his government’s allegiance to the settlement movement.

Rhodes said that settlement activity “accelerated considerably” since the US vetoed a similar UN resolution in 2011, leading the US to believe that taking the same course of action — absent ongoing peace talks — would not yield different results.

“In the absence of any meaningful peace process, as well as in the accelerated settlement activity,” he said, “we took the decision that we did today to abstain on the resolution.”

Rhodes repeatedly referred to settlement growth as creating “trend lines” the US believed was “putting the very viability of a two-state solution at risk.” But settlements, he said, were not the only issue obstructing the prospects of peace. The resolution also incorporated language critical of Palestinian incitement and violence, and because the wording on settlements was focused on opposition to the enterprise, Obama was prepared to support it, he indicated.


Support for Israel is increasingly coterminous with supporting settlements and annexation.

Lots and lots of people-- Democrats, Republicans, Israelis, Americans--claiming to support the two-state solution but vehemently demanding that the US actively and aggressively enable settlement expansion.
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Israelis choosing a different path for Israel than America would-makes sense HoneyBadger Dec 2016 #1
Israel is also choosing its own one-state solution. geek tragedy Dec 2016 #2
At this stage, I support Israel keeping the West Bank. appal_jack Dec 2016 #3
So you favor giving them the right to vote, or you favor apartheid. geek tragedy Dec 2016 #4
Right, because people can't possibly move. appal_jack Dec 2016 #5
Oh, so you favor ethnic cleansing. geek tragedy Dec 2016 #6
hyperbole much? nt appal_jack Dec 2016 #7
If Palestinians insist on remaining in Palestine geek tragedy Dec 2016 #8
Considering that Palestinians consider Gaza & the Sinai part of Palestine... appal_jack Dec 2016 #9
And if they refuse to abandon the WB, do you give them the right geek tragedy Dec 2016 #10
 

HoneyBadger

(2,297 posts)
1. Israelis choosing a different path for Israel than America would-makes sense
Fri Dec 23, 2016, 11:09 PM
Dec 2016

The solution is political and historically successful, replace Netanyahu with a leader beholden to the US. It worked so well in South Vietnam, oh wait, they resolved their 2 state solution on their own.

 

appal_jack

(3,813 posts)
3. At this stage, I support Israel keeping the West Bank.
Sun Dec 25, 2016, 12:22 AM
Dec 2016

Last edited Mon Dec 26, 2016, 10:07 PM - Edit history (1)

No reason why a two-state solution could not be centered around Gaza and the Sinai. Palestinians were offered 92% of the West Bank in 1995 and refused the deal. They screwed that pooch. Time moves on.

-app

 

appal_jack

(3,813 posts)
5. Right, because people can't possibly move.
Mon Dec 26, 2016, 06:43 PM
Dec 2016

It's less than 75 miles between the West Bank and Gaza. Maybe 100 miles between the West Bank and the northern end of the Sinai. But no, Palestinians could not possibly move there to form a nation of their own...

-app

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
8. If Palestinians insist on remaining in Palestine
Mon Dec 26, 2016, 08:53 PM
Dec 2016

would you propose giving them the right to vote, imposing apartheid on them, or ethnically cleansing them?

 

appal_jack

(3,813 posts)
9. Considering that Palestinians consider Gaza & the Sinai part of Palestine...
Mon Dec 26, 2016, 09:34 PM
Dec 2016

...your question is pretty silly. We're talking about a distance like me moving to Virginia: not top on my list of things to do, but if it meant the difference between peace & prosperity vs. war & continued impoverishment, I would pack my bags.

Of course, too many Palestinians consider Tel Aviv and the rest of Israel to be "Palestine" as well. By uncritically accepting their propaganda, it's you is endorsing 'ethnic cleansing,' my tragic friend.

-app

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
10. And if they refuse to abandon the WB, do you give them the right
Mon Dec 26, 2016, 10:02 PM
Dec 2016

to vote, impose apartheid, or go Slobo Milosevic on them?

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