Israel/Palestine

Mosby

(17,287 posts) Fri Jun 15, 2018, 11:41 AM Jun 2018

Palestinians prep 5,000 kite bombs in Gaza to mark end of Ramadan

Israeli media report Palestinians plan to launch 5,000 such devices into southern Israel to mark Eid al-Fitr.

The IDF struck a target in the southern Gaza Strip on Thursday, two hours after it fired warning shots in the same area toward Palestinians who were preparing airborne incendiary devices near the Bureij refugee camp.

“The IDF struck an infrastructure near the area where a squad had previously been preparing Molotov cocktails in the southern Gaza Strip,” the IDF said. “The IDF considers the use of incendiary kites and balloons to be severe, and will act to prevent their use.”

The announcement came shortly after Palestinians reported that a drone launched a missile at people near the border fence who were flying balloons with Molotov cocktails attached, and unconfirmed reports by Israeli media that Palestinians planned to launch 5,000 incendiary balloons and kites toward Israel from the Hamas-run Strip to mark Eid al-Fitr on Thursday night.

https://www.msn.com/en-ae/news/other/palestinians-prep-5000-kite-bombs-in-gaza-to-mark-end-of-ramadan/ar-AAyFj25

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Palestinians prep 5,000 kite bombs in Gaza to mark end of Ramadan (Original Post) Mosby Jun 2018 OP

A drone launched a missile vs flying balloons with Molotov cocktails, and procon Jun 2018 #1

There will never be progress so long as people rely on "alternative" history to support their views. Mosby Jun 2018 #2

Back at ya... I see what you do and I am not a fan. nt procon Jun 2018 #3

That's cool, it's pretty much impossible to discuss an issue when folks can't agree on the facts. Mosby Jun 2018 #4

If you had any legitimate counter argument you wouldn't be reduced to procon Jun 2018 #5

So much wrong here. StinkyPete Jun 2018 #6

procon

(15,805 posts)

1. A drone launched a missile vs flying balloons with Molotov cocktails, and

Reply to Mosby (Original post)

Fri Jun 15, 2018, 12:32 PM

Jun 2018

the Palestinians are worse than Israelis?

I dunno, if my country was invaded, destroyed and occupied by a foreign army, I suspect that most citizens would fight with whatever means they had, just like other subjugated people have always done throughout time.

My dad was shot down behind German line somewhere in Belgium during WWII and until he was rescued, he worked with the insurgent forces to blow up, burn and break everything the Nazi occupation army had. He was always spoke very fondly of the resistance fighters and was proud of the small part he played in liberating Belgium.

Palestinians deserve nothing less than the return of their land and the right to live free of Israeli military subjugation.

Mosby

(17,287 posts)

2. There will never be progress so long as people rely on "alternative" history to support their views.

Reply to procon (Reply #1)

Fri Jun 15, 2018, 12:44 PM

Jun 2018

Just an FYI.

procon

(15,805 posts)

3. Back at ya... I see what you do and I am not a fan. nt

Reply to Mosby (Reply #2)

Fri Jun 15, 2018, 12:53 PM

Jun 2018

Mosby

(17,287 posts)

4. That's cool, it's pretty much impossible to discuss an issue when folks can't agree on the facts.

Reply to procon (Reply #3)

Fri Jun 15, 2018, 01:32 PM

Jun 2018

Ill drop this but I would like to share with you a tweet Khamenei sent out earlier today:

The Zionist regime was founded based on falsehood. They have forcefully and by means of coercion, threat and armed forces, expelled a historical nation from their own country. Is it possible to eliminate #Palestine from the historical-geographical memory of the world?!

Compare that to what you said:

I dunno, if my country was invaded, destroyed and occupied by a foreign army, I suspect that most citizens would fight with whatever means they had, just like other subjugated people have always done throughout time.

With all due respect, I don't see a lot of light between those two statements.

procon

(15,805 posts)

5. If you had any legitimate counter argument you wouldn't be reduced to

Reply to Mosby (Reply #4)

Fri Jun 15, 2018, 01:51 PM

Jun 2018

trying to play a weak, tired old card like that, yeah?

Now let me share a few things as well:

stealing land from captured civilians is theft
a government imposed embargo against impoverished civilians is immoral
the military occupation against a population of civilians refugees is barbaric
political opportunism is no different than extortion

StinkyPete

(13 posts)

6. So much wrong here.

Reply to procon (Reply #1)

Thu Jun 28, 2018, 06:58 AM

Jun 2018

A drone launched a missile vs flying balloons with Molotov cocktails, and the Palestinians are worse than Israelis?

This speaks of intent. The drone is defense against terror threats to Israeli civilians while the flying molotovs are the very definition of terror. Yes, they're far worse. What an idiotic statement.

I dunno, if my country was invaded, destroyed and occupied by a foreign army, I suspect that most citizens would fight with whatever means they had, just like other subjugated people have always done throughout time.

No need to fight when the Palestinians have been offered their own state many times. Hamas, the PLO, Islamic Jihad & other terrorists there want to fight & you're defending that. They need leaders to make peace with Israel, like those in Jordan & Egypt. That would be a good enough start at least.

My dad was shot down behind German line somewhere in Belgium during WWII and until he was rescued, he worked with the insurgent forces to blow up, burn and break everything the Nazi occupation army had. He was always spoke very fondly of the resistance fighters and was proud of the small part he played in liberating Belgium.

Except the Jews aren't Nazis and that's a repulsive comparison. The Jews are indigenous to Israel, it's their homeland and has been for thousands of years. Jews can't occupy their own homeland anymore than native Americans can do so here.

Palestinians deserve nothing less than the return of their land and the right to live free of Israeli military subjugation.

It was never their land. Regardless, they've been offered their own state multiple times. Israel has proven with Egypt & Jordan it can make & keep peace in exchange for land. The Palestinians (their leaders) have only proven to be warmongers.

A simple test for you, okay?

Hamas rejected 2 offers to disarm & end their war on the Jews in exchange for massive aid to Gaza that would help Palestinians greatly. Right move by Hamas or wrong move?

Europe offer: https://bit.ly/2lDA5zz
Israel offer: https://bit.ly/2KsJiFH

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