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Mosby

(17,287 posts)
Fri Jan 24, 2020, 01:44 PM Jan 2020

The Arabs used to chant that Palestine did not exist

Students for Justice in Palestine is famous for chanting, “From the River to the Sea, Palestine Will be Free.” The chant means that Palestine should extend from the River Jordan to the Mediterranean Sea. The chant means that the borders of Israel should be removed and replaced with new borders, and that Israel should be removed and replaced with a new country. Put simply, it is a call for the removal of Israel and its replacement with a new country called Palestine. However, before the Arabs started to chant, “From the River to the Sea, Palestine Will be Free,” they used to chant that Palestine did not exist.

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From 1918 to 1937, the Arab leaders told the British government that:

Palestine did not exist as separate territory from Syria.
Palestine had always been part of Syria.

The local Arabs were willing to die to prevent the creation of Palestine.

Palestine was created by Zionist propaganda.

Just let that sink in: At one point, the Arab leaders told the British government that Palestine was created by Zionist propaganda. After Israel was created, then the Arabs switched tactics to claim that Palestine had always existed as a separate territory, but it had always belonged to the Palestinians. Thus, the international community had no right to give it to the Jews. The Palestinians are a unique group of people in that they shift the claim of what land belongs to them to match whatever shape of land belongs to the Jews. Hence, why the modern chant, “From the River to the Sea, Palestine will be Free,” was copied from an earlier Arab chant that said “ “Unity, Unity, From The Taurus to Rafa, Unity, Unity.” Both chants have the same goal – to destroy the Jewish State.

https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/the-arabs-used-to-chant-that-palestine-di

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The Arabs used to chant that Palestine did not exist (Original Post) Mosby Jan 2020 OP
Some in Israel are Talking a One State Solution McKim Jan 2020 #1
Here is the flag of Palestine circa 1939 Mosby Jan 2020 #2
If you look at old maps, you'll Igel Jan 2020 #3
There was never sabbat hunter Jan 2020 #5
Iraqi's, Turks, Syrians and Iranians Lithos Jan 2020 #4
Whats your point Mosby ? Israeli Feb 2020 #6

McKim

(2,412 posts)
1. Some in Israel are Talking a One State Solution
Fri Jan 24, 2020, 03:13 PM
Jan 2020

Some in Israel are talking about a one state solution where all will have equal rights to end these conflicts. It is a myth that Palestine never existed. Just look at the old maps. Arab opinion and ideas are not monolithic.

Igel

(36,010 posts)
3. If you look at old maps, you'll
Fri Jan 24, 2020, 06:46 PM
Jan 2020

see the NW Territory. But it was never a country.

Palestine was a geographic area, like "Western Europe". It wasn't as well defined as Basque Country or Occitania is now. It was a province back in Roman times and a province often since then, but without quite the same borders. While these things change, it also lacked any sort of ethnic or linguistic differentiation or sense of beingness since long before the Arabization of the territory. You really have to go back to 70 AD and before.

Palestinians exist as an ethnicity now, but we've basically seen ethnogenesis born of nationalism rooted in a desire to be apart.

sabbat hunter

(6,888 posts)
5. There was never
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 06:36 PM
Jan 2020

an independent country called Palestine. Palestine on maps was basically a territory of various empires, stretching all the way back to Roman times, often called Syria-Palestina.

Israeli

(4,285 posts)
6. Whats your point Mosby ?
Sun Feb 2, 2020, 02:07 PM
Feb 2020

I read your link , from a blog of some insignifigant American that studied at a Yeshiva.
Are you worried that the Palestinians are going to destroy us ?
How can they if they don't exist ?

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